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Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by Our_Benefactors on Saturday October 15, 2022 @12:17AM (#33211706)
Are you aware that China had to pay silver (and ONLY silver) for opium? The motivation then was arguably only “to make money” even though the indolent effects of opium addiction was clear. The suppliers of narcotics always make money. As a modern day dealer with a grudge and a playbook, why not kill two birds with one stone?
Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by refurb on Saturday October 15, 2022 @12:22AM (#33211725)
I've never encountered a situation where people need an excuse beyond "make a shit ton of money" to sell drugs.

I'll bet a lot of people involved in the fentanyl trade don't even know much about the Opium Wars anyways.

It's like claiming smuggling of liquor from Canada to the US during prohibition was Canada's attempt at getting back at the US for the War of 1812. Nahh.. they just wanted to make a crap ton of money.

Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by Our_Benefactors on Saturday October 15, 2022 @12:35AM (#33211777)
> I'll bet a lot of people involved in the fentanyl trade don't even know much about the Opium Wars anyways.

I’ll bet you aren’t familiar with the grammar school Chinese history curriculum.

Besides, as a modern kingpin, think with scale! Recruiting goes much smoother when you can sell it as “you’re a soldier for the country, fighting an undercover war”. How many companies have “make money” as their mission statement besides Amazon?

The comparison to Canada and prohibition doesn’t pass the smell test. Given that the war of 1812 wasn’t predicated on getting the Canadians into a drunken stupor as a tactic of economic warfare.

Oh, and as far as USA vs British East India Company, it’s all “the west” in the end.

Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by Cederfjard on Saturday October 15, 2022 @07:37AM (#33213912)
> The comparison to Canada and prohibition doesn’t pass the smell test. Given that the war of 1812 wasn’t predicated on getting the Canadians into a drunken stupor as a tactic of economic warfare.

Since we’re speculating freely anyway, why does the revenge have to come in the same form as the initial affront?

Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by Lio on Saturday October 15, 2022 @03:17AM (#33212570)
Canada doesn’t need to get back at the US for the war of 1812 because Canada won the war of 1812. ;)
Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by DiogenesKynikos on Saturday October 15, 2022 @04:10AM (#33212840)
Canada didn't exist in 1812. It was "upper Canada," just one of the British North American colonies.
Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by Lio on Saturday October 15, 2022 @03:15AM (#33212565)
Isn’t the reason that they payed with silver a reflection that China itself would only accept silver for goods such as tea at that time?
Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by Our_Benefactors on Saturday October 15, 2022 @03:45AM (#33212706)
Yes, so by closing the trade loop with opium, there was a large net outflow of silver in addition to many other types of goods.
Re:A Chinese American gangster transformed money laundering ... by thedailymail on Saturday October 15, 2022 @05:46AM (#33213297)
Mark Twain made what I consider one of history's greatest puns when he described the American role in the opium trade as "Taels I win, heads you lose."

(A tael was a unit of Chinese silver bullion; heads references the death penalty for drug running, which applied only to Chinese subjects for most of the opium years.)