Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by ncmncm on Friday October 14, 2022 @06:58PM (#33209792)

Money is fungible. Each dollar spent on nuke generating capacity is that dollar not spent on several times as much renewable generating capacity.

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by HyperSane on Friday October 14, 2022 @07:15PM (#33209906)

Not when you take the capacity factor into account. Nuclear reactors have far higher capacity factors than wind and solar.

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by ncmncm on Friday October 14, 2022 @07:33PM (#33210042)

Even after you take capacity factor into account.

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by HyperSane on Friday October 14, 2022 @10:33PM (#33211145)

And the cost of the backup power for when wind and solar don't generate enough?

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by ben_w on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:59AM (#33235424)

Yes.

The most expensive serious storage solution is LiIon, and even that's merely the same cost (or at least, the bell curves of their prices mostly overlap) as an equivalent nuclear reactor.

(I'm deliberately ignoring any claims about future battery costs; while I'm expecting them to come down, they don't need to in order to make this argument).

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by HyperSane on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @05:41AM (#33244928)

"and even that's merely the same cost (or at least, the bell curves of their prices mostly overlap) as an equivalent nuclear reactor."

citation needed.

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by ben_w on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:38AM (#33249021)

• PV utility scale with battery, Germany, €55-€100/MWh, (2021): https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/publications/studies/cost-o...

• LCOE for nuclear, analysis based on new nuclear worldwide but priced in Euros, €67-€82/MWh, (2020): https://energy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-10/final_repor... page 40-41

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Re:Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will ... by ClumsyPilot on Friday October 14, 2022 @09:35PM (#33210755)

Money is fictional - only raw resources, manufacturing fapacity and climate disaster are real.

I thought this should be clear to everyone today, when energy price whent up 10x because yoy can print euros but can't print jeoules of energy or natural gas.

Renewables and nuclear use different resources and manufacturing capacities.

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