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Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by trasz on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:25PM (#33207095)
They are the same in every practical sense, in particular in their end results.

The differences you mention are an implementation detail - in some countries you have the rules written down as law, in others you got shady three letter agencies, kangaroo "FISA courts", and In-Q-Tel.

Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by kube-system on Friday October 14, 2022 @03:46PM (#33208013)
The end results are not the same. There are many observable differences between doing business in China and in the US or other western market democracies. For instance, executive action is regularly challenged in the US, and successfully so.
Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by trasz on Friday October 14, 2022 @04:10PM (#33208278)
>For instance, executive action is regularly challenged in the US, and successfully so.

And? How's that different from China?

Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by kube-system on Friday October 14, 2022 @04:41PM (#33208583)
China does not have an independent judiciary.
Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by trasz on Friday October 14, 2022 @05:37PM (#33209100)
[citation needed]

US, on the other hand, definitely doesn't - everyone from the top is chosen by politicians.

Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by kube-system on Friday October 14, 2022 @06:58PM (#33209785)
> [citation needed]

I’m not claiming anything controversial. The SPC openly says that they follow the guidance of the Party. https://qz.com/886665/xi-jinping-promised-legal-reform-in-ch...

The US has a judiciary comprising of judges picked by politicians from two competing parties.

Re:TikTok has an open computational chemistry position by trasz on Saturday October 15, 2022 @04:13AM (#33212856)
>the guidance of the Party

Which, translated to western terms, is like guidance of the Department of Justice.

>politicians from two competing parties

Here the term “party” means something completely different from above. If you imagine the political system as layers, China places boundaries between those layers differently from the West, and if you continue to use the terms for those layers (“party”) without realizing this, you’ll arrive at silly conclusions.