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Re:Unlaunching the 12GB 4080 by blagie on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:07PM (#33206849)
I agree. I think a deeper problem is it takes a Ph.D in Intel / AMD branding to understand what to buy. An 80486 was faster than an 80386, and 33MHz was slower than 66MHz. It was simple.

Intel's i7 line-up goes from 2 to 16 cores, 1-4GHz, spanning 13 generations. Toss in i3/i5/i7/i9, and lines like Atom and Xeon.

Each time I need to upgrade my computer, I groan. It's not just less fun, it's positively miserable.

Most people I know either buy the cheapest possible computer, or an Apple. I don't know why Intel thinks anyone will spend extra if they have no idea what they're buying. Most non-Apple users I know have phones with faster processor, higher-resolution displays, and for higher prices than their laptops.

Re:Unlaunching the 12GB 4080 by lbotos on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:22PM (#33207064)
Agree on the misery. I was speccing out a build and inadvertently picked a 2019 processor because it was extremely unclear.

(I'm now actually looking at an AMD 7700 rig, because intel won't do ECC on "desktop" CPUs, except for a rare chipset that I can't find a mobo for sale at the moment...)

Re:Unlaunching the 12GB 4080 by blagie on Friday October 14, 2022 @08:47PM (#33210470)
AMD + ECC is nice. That's how I'm set up. Also, RAID. I've been very happy with general system stability.
Re:Unlaunching the 12GB 4080 by kevin_thibedeau on Friday October 14, 2022 @05:15PM (#33208885)
It's the Packard-Bell marketing strategy. Confuse the marketplace with a profusion of similar models so that comparison shopping can't be easily applied by casual buyers.
Re:Unlaunching the 12GB 4080 by blagie on Friday October 14, 2022 @08:45PM (#33210456)
That strategy works well in a lot of places, but it's not what's going on here. This is just plain old incompetence and mismanagement. It's a mess, rather than a strategy.

For Intel, it just results in most buyers buying the cheapest possible system since there is no way to tell what's what. Intel would make a lot more selling $400 CPUs than $50 CPUs, but to do that, people would need to see the value.

Re:Unlaunching the 12GB 4080 by tracker1 on Friday October 14, 2022 @05:42PM (#33209165)
The 13 generations is particularly bad, if you're just trying to comment to someone looking for a used system, when half the time they just list "Core i7" which is meaningless without at least a model generation.