Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones with charger

Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by masklinn on Friday October 14, 2022 @09:35AM (#33203315)

Ah that's fair then, that would be an issue. Though it surprises me a touch: my iphone 11 came with an A->lightning cable (I just checked).

Maybe it's that more recently Apple switched the bundled cables from A to C, but didn't provide a charger brick, so people who still only had USB-A chargers were SOL? That would make a lot of sense as well, and I would understand the anger.

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Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by sdfsdfsdf111 on Friday October 14, 2022 @09:49AM (#33203451)

> Apple switched the bundled cables from A to C, but didn't provide a charger brick, so people who still only had USB-A chargers were SOL

Yes, this is what happened on the iPhone 13 (may have been 12).

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Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by ascagnel_ on Friday October 14, 2022 @09:53AM (#33203511)

I think that was the first phone where they didn’t include the charger; after a decade+ of including a USB-A charger, that decision was probably fine for avoiding e-waste. Switching to USB-C on the wall side of the cable the next year was very iffy, since users were much, much more likely to need the new charger or an adapter.

If they were really worried about capacity (per shipping container) and reducing e-waste, they’d make the adapter available as an optional add-on at cost — making it free would likely generate more e-waste, since everyone would just go for the free charger.

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Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by d3nj4l on Friday October 14, 2022 @10:31AM (#33204001)

You could just use your old lightning cable? the port on the phone didn't change, you could use any existing lightning charger and it would work just fine. There's no requirement that you have to use the cable bundled in the box.

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Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by masklinn on Friday October 14, 2022 @10:53AM (#33204339)

> You could just use your old lightning cable?

If you were switching from a Lightning iphone to a Lightning iphone, then yes. But say you were switching from an older Android phone, or a limping iphone still on dock connector?

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Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by d3nj4l on Friday October 14, 2022 @11:05AM (#33204525)

If you were using an iPhone with a dock connector, hats off for stretching one from 2012 (at best) to 2020, but that's hardly a large enough segment to count. Those things did not even have 4G, so the idea that a significant number of people were using one until 2020 and also decided to upgrade to an iPhone 12 is ridiculous.

Also, if you were using an older Android etc. you are still not required to use the USB-C to lightning cable. You can get a USB-A to lightning cable for cheap, and those aren't as liable to burn down your house as a cheap charge brick.

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Re:Apple gets $19M fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones wi... by flutas on Friday October 14, 2022 @12:17PM (#33205510)

> Maybe it's that more recently Apple switched the bundled cables from A to C, but didn't provide a charger brick, so people who still only had USB-A chargers were SOL?

It started with the 11, but only for the Pro models. 12 everything was USB-C.

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