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Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by chemtrailz2 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @07:44PM (#33197933)
This is literally what the 'chem trails' conspiracy has been claiming they have already been doing for 15-20 years, and they were ridiculed for saying so.

I'm not saying all chemtrail people are right or there isn't some nuance, but if you actually paid attention to the coherant ones in the group, they were pointing to different patents around 'straospheric aerosol injections', pointing to different analysis of what was in the air already, observing plane patterns, and saying 'gee it looks like they are already doing these stratospheric aerosol injections, probably to reflect back sunlight as they described in the various whitepapers etc.'

I'm sure this comment will be hidden for whatever reason, but here we are and now they are finally ready to publicly admit to what they have clearly been planning and likely doing secretly for ages now. Why on Earth those in control feel fine to admitting to cartoonishly villainous plans it's pretty much the only thing up for debate here.

This will have absolutely ruinous effects if they go through with it on such a scale that they feel compelled to come out of the shadows.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by matthewdgreen on Thursday October 13, 2022 @08:15PM (#33198188)
It’s amazing to me that we may be so deep in the climate feedback loop that this is literally the only way our civilization survives, and someone has already spent years promoting an insane conspiracy theory to make sure a chunk of the population opposes it. Stuff like this makes me think the human race is trying to kill itself.
Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by pasquinelli on Friday October 14, 2022 @05:44AM (#33201462)
if "they" have been doing chemtrails for years to avert climate change, then the conclusion to draw is that "they" are the ultimate source of the insane conspiracy theory. why? if only loons are against it, then the vast majority of people will be inclined to support it. if you didn't do that preperation, you'd have much closer to an even split.

very few people want to be the person yelling at clouds.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by triyambakam on Thursday October 13, 2022 @07:50PM (#33197981)
This is exactly what I thought. I'd really like to hear the reasoning behind whoever downvoted this comment.
Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by chemtrailz2 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @07:59PM (#33198055)
Instantly as well - barely enough time to read the comment.

You'll never get a rational one, because it simply doesn't exist.

This is horrific, the level of hubris it takes to not only do this kind of tinkering, but to come out and say it proudly like it's a reasonable inevitable solution is honestly unfathomably evil.

Frankly I am legitimately scared at what comes next -- it was so clearly being done in secret but on a relatively large scale before if you followed the ScIeNcE via whitepapers, patents, etc...

How bad is it going to be now? And what weird doomsday doctrine are those in charge following behind the scenes to come to the conclusion this is reasonable, and to be ready to come out of the shadows like this? Dark days ahead.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by JetAlone on Thursday October 13, 2022 @08:40PM (#33198344)
>Dark days ahead.

Of course. they're going to reflect back light. Our skies will literally be darker.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by webshit2 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @08:12PM (#33198158)
First they were "likely" doing it. Now they've "clearly" been doing it. But lo and behold, after fooling stupid normies for decades they're ready to announce their doomsday device to the public because......? Were the coherent ones who could look up patents ready to drop some truth bombs on the public?
Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by chemtrailz2 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @08:25PM (#33198264)
Well up until today I thought it was 'likely', but today given the preponderance of evidence that pointed there the last 15+ years, I now feel OK saying 'clearly'.

You can nitpick and get pedantic on that point if you want - that doesn't change the fact that the 'conspiracy theorists' in this situation were literally pointing out all of the research on "stratospheric aersolozied injections" that indicated the government wanted to do a global experiment to block out the sun, and today they are openly admitting it using the exact same language.

I personally find it incredibly unlikely that they have done 0 research and testing on this prior to this announcement, so I find it reasonable to believe they have clearly done it in some capacity in the past which led to this wider decision. You may not agree, which is fine.

That however does not change the fact that the conspiracy theorists were at least right about the method and mode the government was planning to use to block out the sun -- the only thing you can nitpick about is whether or not it has been done in secret on some scale prior to this announcement.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by webshit2 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @09:26PM (#33198623)
Yeah, this is why I can’t take you guys seriously. You take something completely reasonable: researching something that has been publicly proposed for decades and you jumped to loading it with shit like “openly admitting”. Let’s see this preponderance of evidence lol.
Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by dingaling on Friday October 14, 2022 @05:31AM (#33201401)
I think you would have heard howls of protest from global airlines if they were forced into suboptimal routing as part of some grand experiment.

In fact the trend is opposite, towards technology-enabled free-routing of each individual flight.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by Schroedingersat on Friday October 14, 2022 @08:22AM (#33202540)
This would be trivial to prove and impossible to hide.

Get a $50 diffraction grating off of ebay and make a spectrometer out of it and you'll have your answer. Compare the results to the different aerosolcandidatesin your patents and white papers. No conspiracy theorising needed.

Re:White House is pushing ahead research to cool Earth by re... by zopa on Thursday October 13, 2022 @09:01PM (#33198479)
I'm not one of the downvoters, but:

> they are finally ready to publicly admit to what they have clearly been planning and likely doing secretly for ages

I'm not going to take a post like this seriously unless there's some effort to say who "they" are, and how they advance their schemes. Partly that's because interest group politics are complicated and conspiracies are hard, so a story's not much of an explanation if it leaves out that part.

And partly it's because --- look, I don't think grandparent meant they-the-Jews. But a disturbingly non-negligible portion of the time, people who throw around shadowy "theys" end up meaning the Jews. So the mode makes me personally a bit uncomfortable.