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Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by Mindless2112 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @07:57PM (#33185403)
> If you don't like Google or Apple, use your favorite password manager.

Unless the service you are trying to use requires that you use a particular model of authenticator, which the service provider can enforce via attestation.

Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by andrewxdiamond on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:01PM (#33185435)
They can do this with SSO provided by third parties now.
Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by Mindless2112 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:07PM (#33185480)
Sure, but passkeys are meant to replace passwords, not SSO (although I won't complain if they do replace SSO).

Most services probably would not restrict you to just one model of authenticator, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a service require that the authenticator be backed by a secure element, in which case you could use a security key, a passkey, a TPM, et cetera, but not a password manager. I'd still take that over passwords, but I don't think everyone would.

Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by martin_k on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:56PM (#33186249)
> Unless the service you are trying to use requires that you use a particular model of authenticator, which the service provider can enforce via attestation.

Android's implementation of passkeys currently does not support attestation. https://groups.google.com/a/fidoalliance.org/g/fido-dev/c/nh...

Neither does Apple's, I believe.

Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by Mindless2112 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @07:47AM (#33189706)
Good to know! Hopefully this kills off unnecessary use of attestation.
Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by minimaxir on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:00PM (#33186282)
I recently got hardware TOTP keys and I wanted to use them with my financial accounts but all the banks have their own propritary authenticators :(
Re:Google Rolling Out Passkey Passwordless Login Support to ... by oezi on Thursday October 13, 2022 @02:19AM (#33187874)
Isn't it even worse? Browser vendors don't even offer any way to not use their baked-in authenticator? With WebAuthn they offered at least the options of using a security key via Bluetooth/NFC/Bluetooth as alternatives to the device authenticator. I don't see that option with passkeys.

So, there seems no way to use a password manager with passkeys.