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Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by Huh1337 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @05:58PM (#33184098)
No, it's so bad it's better to have nothing for a while, save some money and then buy a better phone.

These phones really are so bad. Give it a go. Usually it's a horrible mess of Chinese tracking code, shitware apps you can't uninstall, and it won't be getting any system updates in a year.

Buy an older flagship second hand phone for $20, that's going to be much better experience than a new $20 one, even if it's 5+ years old and doesn't look good anymore.

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by heavyset_go on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @06:03PM (#33184188)
It is when you need a phone to run apps to do your job or for simple things like banking. Talked to a pest control guy who works for a large company, and he needs a smartphone to do his job. He is quite literally managed through an app, needs it to check-in to work, for time sheets, find out where the next customer lives etc. Someone like that cannot go without a smartphone, requirements like that are leaking into low-level service and retail jobs, now.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by Huh1337 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @06:04PM (#33184200)
No, it's not. Never buy a new $20 phone - it's subsidized by all that tracking and pre-installed shitware and it won't be getting updates soon, if it ever got even one, and the hardware is going to be absolutely terrible too. Buy a second hand one if $20 is all you can spend.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by ipaddr on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @06:38PM (#33184637)
Your Samsung has more tracking and spyware installed you won't be able to uninstall. Never buy a Samsung and expect privacy.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by Huh1337 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @06:50PM (#33184775)
Samsung has unlockable bootloader and good LineageOS support. Unheard of with these $20 phones. And even without flashing, I'd still rather be tracked by Samsung than whatever they put into these $20 ones.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by _-david-_ on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @07:05PM (#33184953)
Only some Samsung's have unlockable bootloaders.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by Huh1337 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @07:11PM (#33185018)
Yeah, the flagships do, that's why I'm recommending them.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by hikingsimulator on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @06:32PM (#33184580)
You don't care about bloatware when your first worry is whether you can end up homeless or malnourishing your kids at the end of the month.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by Huh1337 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @06:36PM (#33184626)
You do because your phone isn't usable because of it. Hard to do work on a phone that barely runs the SMS app.