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Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by flutas on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @05:34PM (#33183708)
> When iMessage came to the iPhone, Apple didn’t intend to rule the world with blue bubbles, blue was just an indication that you were talking to one of the few other iPhone users.

While I want to agree with that statement, Apple really makes it obvious that they try to make SMS suck compared to iMessage.

The biggest glaring example is the green and blue shown in their messaging app.

Their design guidelines literally for iMessage for businesses say contrast of text to background should be 4.5:1 or higher[0], but to target 7:1. Now what do their text bubbles comes out to?

iMessage(#FFFFFF/#4389F7): 3.4:1

SMS (#FFF/#68CD68): 1.99:1

[0]: https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

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Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by gjsman-1000 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @05:40PM (#33183824)
Someone did a blog post about that, but it was actually misinformation (literally).

The Contrast between Green and Blue is actually roughly identical, it's just that both colors fade upward as time passes. So, the author picked a green bubble from higher up (which had faded), and a blue bubble from the bottom (which was fresh and dark), thereby comparing Apples and Oranges. Both have similar contrast when freshly sent and arrived, and similar faded contrast.

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Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by flutas on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @05:55PM (#33184055)
> Someone did a blog post about that, but it was actually misinformation (literally).

> The Contrast between Green and Blue is actually roughly identical, it's just that both colors fade upward as time passes. So, the author picked a green bubble from higher up (which had faded), and a blue bubble from the bottom (which was fresh and dark), thereby comparing Apples and Oranges. Both have similar contrast when freshly sent and arrived, and similar faded contrast.

You wanna check yourself? Because I pulled screenshots from my phone and tested this myself before I even posted that first comment.

I'll even go back and verify with the best case scenario that you stated of the color the very bottom pixel of a bubble at the very bottom of the screen (not counting the border).

SMS: #64C265 (100, 194, 101) or 2.2:1

iMessage: #377CEE (57, 128, 245) or 3.97:1

Heres the screenshots as well if you want to check: https://imgur.com/a/5nYhBSw

Why not even do the simplest thing of verifying before you try to claim "mIsInFoRmAtIoN".

EDIT: Re-reading this it has hostility in it, which I'm sorry for and apologize for. I am simply tired of people claiming "misinformation" on a topic while not even bothering to check the claim or to even try to backup what they claim themselves. I specifically went out of my way to check this, and include the exact color values. Only to be replied to with "well someone said XYZ" with no links, supporting information, or even an attempt at proving what they claimed.

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