FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows

Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by pclmulqdq on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:50PM (#33179659)

> I would say there's a correlation between less government and worse living conditions on average

I think this is true, but I don't think the correlation is causal. Rich countries throughout history have tended to grow their governments after becoming rich by adopting social programs and trying to flex their muscle internationally. Most of Europe followed this model, as did the US.

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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by themitigating on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:54PM (#33179718)

So post ww2 for the US? We've still one of the best counties to live in.

Edit. Are you claiming social programs are created to flex your country? Do you have proof of this?

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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by pclmulqdq on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:25PM (#33180150)

I am not claiming that social programs are a flex. The military is a flex.

Post WW2 for the US, post-Victorian era in the UK, post-Napoleon in France, post-Tarism in Russia, post-oil-boom in Scandanavia, etc. Countries with big social programs are still great to live in, but I only mean that the social programs and big government are clearly not part of the reason why those countries became rich. The big government is caused by the wealth, not the other way around.

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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by themitigating on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:08PM (#33181571)

That doesn't mean a big government isn't responsible for maintaining that wealth which is why I mentioned post ww2 us.

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