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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by landryraccoon on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:09AM (#33178103)
> (homicides are up like 60% compared to the pre-BLM days).

Where are you getting this statistic? A quick google search doesn’t show any such surge in the murder rate in the United States. 60% is a very large increase. I would expect this stat to have huge ripple effects if it were true.

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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by cjsplat on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:22AM (#33178318)
The FBI has a nice analysis front end at https://crime-data-explorer.fr.cloud.gov/pages/home

Here is the murder rate graph - note that the most recent year is flagged as not fully reported yet.

https://crime-data-explorer.fr.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crim...

Up 60% isn't far off, depending on when "pre-BLM days" starts, but it takes a big leap to connect it to BLM.

Also, if you look at the rate since the early 90's we are doing quite a bit better, so you get to pick your favorite trend line.

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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by scifibestfi on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:18AM (#33178258)
In some US cities there was a spike.

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/what-caused-the-2020-h...

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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by femiagbabiaka on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:12AM (#33178151)
It’s a complete fabrication of course.
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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by junon on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:28AM (#33178408)
Two mis-informations don't make a truth.
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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by throwaway894345 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:07PM (#33179040)
According to the FBI, there were 22,900 homicides in 2021 and 14,249 in 2014. If a ~60% increase isn't the right figure, what do you think it is, and how did you arrive at your conclusion?
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Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows by throwaway894345 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:01PM (#33178951)
The stat has had huge ripple effects, especially in poorer urban communities. Checking the homicide rates on the FBI data explorer shows an increase of 50% which gels with my 60% ballpark figure (rates accounts for population increases in a way my homicide increases figure doesn't).

My 60% figure was grabbing the homicide count in 2014 from the FBI UCR (14,249 per https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-....) and comparing it with the stats from 2021 (22,900).

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