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Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by chernevik on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:12PM (#33166835)
> "If your team looks like that, your team is horrible too, no matter how much you tell yourself it's not."

Yes, it's true. There has never been a strong team of young, white nerdy men. Never happened.

Technological and engineering progress was at a baffling standstill for centuries until the wisdom of diversity, inclusion and equity dawned upon us.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by stonogo on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:23PM (#33167019)
Your sarcasm would work better if anyone understood what the hell you were trying to refer to. You seem to ascribe "technological and engineering progress" exclusively to teams of young, white, nerdy men in this comment, which is clearly something only an idiot would do, so I presume you are trying to make a different, better point. Feel free to let us know what that might be.
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by leveraction on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:38PM (#33167280)
I think the point was that quite a bit of technolgical progess happened in the world prior to diversity initiatives. The reference to white nerds likely places the comment in an historical US perspective, possibly western European. Advanced technologies developed in other non-diverse cultures as well. China comes to mind in particular. But I feel like you knew that already. "Feel free to let us know what that might be." If we have sarcasm tags, maybe we should have snark tags as well?
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by ifyoubuildit on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:35PM (#33167244)
I think op is saying these things:

- We've had major progress over the last however many decades.

- A lot of the teams responsible for that work were probably made up of young white nerdy males (obviously not all, but young nerdy males probably covers a large portion of them, otherwise why would we even be here talking about DEI initiatives?)

- were all of those teams horrible?

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by stonogo on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:45PM (#33167400)
No, the OP is taking for granted that "a lot" of the teams responsible for that work were made of young white nerdy males, and provides no justification for this assumption. Especially in a world where, prior to the current computer boom, Western scientific progress has been associated with grizzled elderly people in solitary labs, and technology was the purview of megacorps run by middle-aged managers.
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by secondcoming on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:27PM (#33167096)
From TFA:

> But they make horrible teams.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by crackercrews on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:31PM (#33167164)
To be fair, Microsoft Teams is horrible.