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Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by dsign on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:28AM (#33160097)
IMO, fibers with very high tensile strength have only two applications worth speaking of:

a) Space elevators (but the tensile strength required for that is too high and we are still not close enough), and

b) Large O'Neill cylinders, in the radius of about 50 kilometers (about 30 miles). With regards to tensile strength, these would require something with the strength of graphene.

This particular fiber seems to have 2 GPa of tensile strength, which is only good for a smallish O'Neill cylinder.

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by thorncorona on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:51AM (#33160203)
I can think of a couple:

- Durable stringy clothing items

- Thinner ropes? Particularly relevant is for safety applications.

- Fiber ropes are particularly advantageous when compared to steel ropes in applications that require repeated bending.

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by beefield on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:49AM (#33160500)
Regarding ropes, for most practical applications I can think fro the top of my head, tensile strength is not actually that much of a limiting factor (especially with dyneema), but more the abrasion resistance and how easy it is to handle a rope.

I mean, you could in theory rappel from something like 2mm dyneema line with very comfortable safety margin on tensile strength alone, but 1. keeping a say 60m long 2mm line untangled is a serious headache, and I would not be comfortable holding my weight on the 2mm rope while letting it scratch against a rock wall .

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by netjiro on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:46AM (#33160876)
if the load bearing core is miniscule and light you have plenty of mass and radius available for abrasion resistance, handling properties, etc ...
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by beefield on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:13AM (#33161052)
Yes, but we are there already in many applications where we need to pad the core for abrasion and handling. Making the core even more smaller makes no big benefit - unless it is substantially cheaper than the competition.

And to be clear, I believe there are multiple applications for higher tensile strength fibers. I just can't see that many applications where thinner ropes than current technology produces would be a game changer.

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by shellfishgene on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:58AM (#33160958)
Depends on the use case, Zylon is one of the strongest fibers, and is used for rigging in competitive sailing. However it's not UV stable and not good with repetitive bending, so I'd not recommend it for climbing use either...
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by denton-scratch on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:08AM (#33161439)
Manufacturing garottes? Like, maybe that fancy device in the movie "The Counsellor".
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by martyvis on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:53AM (#33160213)
Maybe we can progress from tensegrity coffee tables to tensegrity skyscrapers.
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by geysersam on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:02AM (#33160263)
Why not things like:

* Buildings

* Bridges

* High voltage wires with very few supports

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by zdragnar on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:12AM (#33161041)
Since it is still a protein based biopolymer, it is going to naturally decompose. Per the article, it may be doped with zinc, which is very not good in excess in water supplies. It'd need to be pretty heavily treated to make it suitable for any application where safety is a concern.
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:12AM (#33160319)
Save others the burden of a couple of clicks / taps.

An O'Neill cylinder would consist of two counter-rotating cylinders. The cylinders would rotate in opposite directions to cancel any gyroscopic effects that would otherwise make it difficult to keep them aimed toward the Sun. Each would be 5 miles (8.0 km) in diameter and 20 miles (32 km) long, connected at each end by a rod via a bearing system. Their rotation would provide artificial gravity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Neill_cylinder

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by injidup on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:49AM (#33160496)
Super lightweight wings for my hydrofoil!
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by shellfishgene on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:35AM (#33160801)
Kevlar has a higher tensile strength than this silk, and there seem to be quite a few uses worth speaking of, apart from science fiction space technology...
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by ChrisMarshallNY on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:43AM (#33160853)
I’ve read an article (maybe linked here?), about the reason that building elevators have limits to how many floors they can travel.

It has to do with the weight of the cables.

That article posited that spider silk was a solution, but this may be better.

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by obsrvatlarge on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:33AM (#33161611)
Might have a problem with fire resistance.
Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by ChrisMarshallNY on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:33PM (#33168149)
Most materials (including steel) have issues with extreme heat. Steel can suffer “invisible” damage, where it becomes structurally weak, but there’s little visual evidence.

In that case, a cable that visibly melts or breaks, can be better.

Elevators have all kinds of passive braking systems. They might get stuck, but they only fall in movies.

Re:Artificial superstrong silkworm silk surpasses natural sp... by marcyb5st on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:09AM (#33161026)
There's also the use case of ultra high pressure containers to store whatever gas under extreme pressure which is extremely useful in the short term for aerospace industry and exotic forms of energy storage for renewables (like compressed air) in micro-grids settings