Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters
by haswell on Sunday October 09, 2022 @02:56PM
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> As a rational person, everything about the photos is obviously fake. Take a look at this website: thispersondoesnotexist.com
As a rational person, the existence of thispersondoesnotexist.com has as much bearing on the realness of these photos as it does on the realness of any other photo that exists.
I thought you might have at least a stretched-but-plausible argument but this is just not even worthy of consideration.
> I know it's hard to face up to the shattering of the illusion of BBC impartiality (and all of western media in general)…
I have no allusions about the impartiality and bias of media - western or otherwise. The existence of bias does not invalidate the existence of facts. Even a biased news outlet is often correct (with details missing that must be filled in from elsewhere, which is distinctly different from reporting pure falsehoods). But we don’t have to just rely on the BBC here - this is a well covered issue at this point.
> …and especially the scale of the lies being pushed at you
The real question is, are you aware of the scale of the lies pushed by your own government?
At this point I’m not interested in continuing to defend against logical fallacies from an obvious mouthpiece of the Chinese state, so I’m not planning to reply again. But if in the very slight chance that you’re just some Irish guy who hates the west, ask yourself what elevates your own unsubstantiated claims above those of career journalists and human rights organizations. Ask yourself if you’re comfortable siding with a potentially genocidal but definitely authoritarian state.
As a rational person, the existence of thispersondoesnotexist.com has as much bearing on the realness of these photos as it does on the realness of any other photo that exists.
I thought you might have at least a stretched-but-plausible argument but this is just not even worthy of consideration.
> I know it's hard to face up to the shattering of the illusion of BBC impartiality (and all of western media in general)…
I have no allusions about the impartiality and bias of media - western or otherwise. The existence of bias does not invalidate the existence of facts. Even a biased news outlet is often correct (with details missing that must be filled in from elsewhere, which is distinctly different from reporting pure falsehoods). But we don’t have to just rely on the BBC here - this is a well covered issue at this point.
> …and especially the scale of the lies being pushed at you
The real question is, are you aware of the scale of the lies pushed by your own government?
At this point I’m not interested in continuing to defend against logical fallacies from an obvious mouthpiece of the Chinese state, so I’m not planning to reply again. But if in the very slight chance that you’re just some Irish guy who hates the west, ask yourself what elevates your own unsubstantiated claims above those of career journalists and human rights organizations. Ask yourself if you’re comfortable siding with a potentially genocidal but definitely authoritarian state.