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Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by howmayiannoyyou on Saturday October 08, 2022 @05:11PM (#33136049)
> What is fascinating about CKIII is that one could easily argue that legitimacy is the central theme of the game, that most of the player’s efforts within a realm are focused on building their own legitimacy or undermining the legitimacy of others.

In this respect I would argue CKIII is the most realistic of political simulations and appears to capture modern day politics exquisitely.

Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by arcanus on Saturday October 08, 2022 @07:57PM (#33137159)
> appears to capture modern day politics exquisitely.

I agree, and it captures an essential element of human nature as well.

I believe crusader kings made me better engineer. Learning that even monarchs and lord's had to influence their vassels and peers gave me a new perspective on leadership. Any leader should consider if their interests align with their allies, subordinates, and colleagues. If they do not, those groups might not obey orders, even if the command is 'legal' and from an authority.

The most effective actions for a group come not from commands by authority but mutual interest and shared values.

Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by stupendousyappi on Saturday October 08, 2022 @09:18PM (#33137508)
I'm reminded of George RR Martin's quote (spoken by Varys) that "Power resides where men believe it resides." Over time technology makes it easier for small numbers of people to control larger numbers, and eventually I expect AI to bring that principle to its logical conclusion, but for now, Varys's observation remains the foundation of modern society in most places.
Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by sassy_quat on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:45AM (#33138338)
So then, why did Stannis fail? He was too worried appearing powerful, preferring either Seaworth or Missandei to speak for him?

A Song of Ice and Fire is based upon simple observations about politics, yet I doubt ever increasing centralization or technology will lead to control over belief. I think the future will be powered by disagreements.

Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by xapata on Sunday October 09, 2022 @01:35AM (#33138516)
> A Song of Ice and Fire is based upon simple observations about politics

Also based on flawed observations about politics and society, as discussed on the ACOUP blog.

Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by arcanus on Sunday October 09, 2022 @08:18AM (#33140332)
Do you have the link to this? Search isn't finding it for me.
Re:Teaching Paradox, Crusader Kings III, Part III: Construct... by 7sigma on Sunday October 09, 2022 @03:26PM (#33144376)