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Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by mcweaksauce on Sunday December 04, 2011 @09:15PM (#3312650)
This looks way harder than the SATs, or rather any standardized test for college admissions that's in use today.
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by gzavitz on Monday December 05, 2011 @12:29PM (#3315482)
The students who went to Harvard most likely attended a prep school that taught them for the test.
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by derleth on Sunday December 04, 2011 @09:30PM (#3312677)
Only because it demands regurgitation of specific facts you don't happen to have memorized.
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by dhconnelly on Sunday December 04, 2011 @09:43PM (#3312702)
That isn't true. Only the history/geography was recall. Latin translation and geometric proofs aren't regurgitation.
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by veyron on Sunday December 04, 2011 @09:49PM (#3312727)
Plane geometry is woefully lacking in education nowadays. The situation is so sad that some of these questions are very similar to the geometry questions in the USAMO/IMO
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by derleth on Monday December 05, 2011 @02:47AM (#3313634)
Plane geometry was, at the time, perhaps the premier formal system to be studied as such; now, we get the same concepts across using calculus (which doesn't seem to be mentioned on the exam) and set theory (which would only really take shape in the 1870s).

(The history of mathematics doesn't get so much as a mention, either, but I don't expect it to.)

Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by jules on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:25AM (#3313709)
This is an interesting "book" that reduces geometry to automated symbol pushing.

http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/GT.html

Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by xymostech on Sunday December 04, 2011 @09:54PM (#3312747)
Actually from a cursory look at the Latin part, it seemed that all of the sentences and things they chose for you to translate were very specific cases of applying rules.

Maybe a bit harder than some of the other stuff, but still regurgitation.

Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by tylee78 on Sunday December 04, 2011 @10:17PM (#3312819)
look at the bigger picture: there is a lot to be said about mastering a classical language to such a degree that you can translate these sentences back. Sure, on the surface it looks simplistic, but students with such a command of Latin would equally possess a rich knowledge in Roman and European history and culture through the process of acquiring classical Latin. Someone mentioned "modern history" missing...well, maybe because they still thought highly of the renaissance value of "ad fontes"?
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by derleth on Monday December 05, 2011 @02:43AM (#3313626)
> Someone mentioned "modern history" missing.

That would be me. 1869 might be a bit early for Civil War history to show up, but nothing on the War of 1812 or even the Revolution? Nothing on the history of Westward Expansion?

I understand going back to the sources ("ad fontes") and education for its own sake, but I've never seen something that implies an education that is so divorced from anything of the time the people receiving it are living in.

Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by lbarrow on Sunday December 04, 2011 @09:49PM (#3312726)
There were only one or two questions in the mathematical part of the test that I would consider regurgitation -- the rest is stuff modern students should be able to do.
Re:Harvard 1869 entrance exam by baddox on Sunday December 04, 2011 @10:53PM (#3312927)
Are you only referring to the mathematics section? Most of the things in other sections were either recollection, or knowing Latin and Greek. In the mathematics section, most of it was simply performing computation, which is still just knowing a simple algorithm that hasn't been very relevant since calculators became commonplace.

Still, I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, since it's fair to make a test that selects for students that have been well-educated in that time period. I just don't think it's necessarily more difficult than a modern equivalent test would be.