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Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by danuker on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:00AM (#33119297)
Indeed.

Your comment prepared me for the experience, but the ball did not drop in my case until taeric's comment (which incidentally missed your point).

To taeric: Anything IS an analog computer of itself. Doing it for real completely bypasses the need to simulate.

Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by feet on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:21AM (#33119401)
This is the explanation of why the brain is an analog biochemical computer
Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by taeric on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:24AM (#33121762)
By this, though, you have to then consider mere half life decay as a calculator. Such that the definition becomes pointless.
Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by uoaei on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:24PM (#33124348)
> Such that the definition becomes pointless.

This is a subjective, normative claim. As such it doesn't hold much water.

Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by taeric on Friday October 07, 2022 @02:07PM (#33124915)
How is this, then. If I can model everything as a calculation, such that all things are computers. What isn't a computer?
Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by uoaei on Friday October 07, 2022 @03:14PM (#33125679)
Exactly my point :)
Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by taeric on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:15PM (#33126386)
And my point is if your definition for a thing is so expansive that everything can fit, it seems a poor definition.
Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by uoaei on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:58PM (#33126780)
I think "description" is more apt than "definition", however still both are different from "distinction". What I mean is, a distinction (by definition) draws a boundary between "that" and "not-that", but descriptions don't need to do that, they are merely conceptual framings that can be applied to whatever is relevant.
Re:Dormant spores decide to wake-up by counting in their sle... by danuker on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:39PM (#33127182)
For instance, an exponential decay is a bad model of a stepwise function. So, while everything is a computer, not everything computes what you want it to.

For purposes of human life, only a device easy to control is a computer.