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Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by watwut on Friday October 07, 2022 @02:49AM (#33118182)
Before traveling, yes. During traveling, no it does not make much sense. Especially due to the way health insurance works - it will pay if you get sick but usually not for vaccinations etc.

> To be pro or anti "vaccine" is as meaningless as being pro or anti "software" or "chemical" or "food". Details matter.

We are specifically talking about covid-19 vaccines.

? We are currently in the world's largest, unprecedented scientific experiment, and we are fortunate that the vast majority of participants have been healthy.

You are lying. Practically, it is not experiment.

> Data from the outliers will be studied for decades to come and future generations will honor their sacrifice and contribution to science.

What does that have to do with whether trying to imply vaccines are responsible for Kim Jung Gi? Literally for no reason other then "I want it to and it would confirm my priors".

Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by walterbell on Friday October 07, 2022 @03:25AM (#33118358)
> Practically, it is not experiment.

The U.S. NIH says otherwise, e.g. here is one of the ongoing clinical studies, which continues through March 2023, https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04848584

  Study Type: Observational
  Official Title: Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 BNT162b2 Vaccine Effectiveness Study - Kaiser Permanente Southern California
  Actual Study Start Date:  May 15, 2021
  Estimated Primary Completion Date: March 31, 2023
  Estimated Study Completion Date: March 31, 2023
> covid-19 vaccines

WHO lists 11 vaccines and 4 types, each with different mechanisms of action, effectiveness and safety, https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/agency/who/

  Protein subunit
  RNA
  Non Replicating Viral Vector
  Inactivated Virus
Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by watwut on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:32PM (#33128260)
There being ongoing related studies does not mean the whole vaccination thing is experiment. The level of manipulativeness and appeals to emotions rather then logic are super high higher.

Also there are way more then just 11 vaccines all in all.

Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by walterbell on Saturday October 08, 2022 @05:43PM (#33136290)
> ongoing related studies does not mean the whole vaccination thing is experiment

It means that the outcome of vaccine studies which complete in 2023, e.g. medium-term adverse effects, identification of specific risk pools, mitigations for adverse effects, will primarily benefit those who receive treatment after the studies complete in 2023.

Any beneficial information from a study completing in 2023 would self-evidently not be available in 2021 and 2022, i.e. science would have yielded new scientific knowledge. Participating in an ongoing scientific procedure with partial data is a risk-benefit decision, but that does not make it any less of an experiment, when there is ongoing, parallel research, clinical trials and scientists working diligently to answer open questions.

Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by t0bia_s on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:41AM (#33118793)
"Practically, it is not experiment."

It is. Vaccine trials cannot be speed up. Human biology is not changeable as some sources trying to tell you. You need time to observe for example changes in fertility. walterbell gave you links for more info.

"Literally for no reason other then "I want it to and it would confirm my priors"."

Sorry, but that is your biased deduction.

Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by watwut on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:34PM (#33128276)
Kim Jung Gi was not infertile. As much as he kept private life private, that much is known.
Re:Kim Jung Gi has died by t0bia_s on Saturday October 08, 2022 @03:14AM (#33130445)
Well... That's not a point of previous post.