Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” Nature

Re:Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” ... by Supermancho on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:34PM (#33087314)

> The idea of property came into existence long before capitalism, which seems to be the linchpin of your take.

That is not what I understood. I understood a simplified definition of property under modern capitalism. Capitalist property value is overwhelmingly limited to physical utility and not to consequence of consumption. There are a few exceptions, in various countries and industry, notwithstanding.

I did not see a suggestion as to what to do about this.

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Re:Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” ... by jshen on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:45PM (#33087462)

Prior to capitalism, I know of no system where “consequence of consumption” was a major aspect of the system. I’m trying to figure out where capitalism becomes a factor here.

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Re:Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” ... by otikik on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @06:13PM (#33087813)

Well if you hunted in the King’s forest, they chopped your head off. That’s a clear consequence of consumption.

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Re:Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” ... by jshen on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:29PM (#33090811)

That’s not about consumption, it’s about property rights.

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Re:Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” ... by otikik on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @10:45AM (#33096199)

Well maybe we should modify property rights so that they include externalities.

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Re:Climate Change Is the Product of How Capitalism “Values” ... by jshen on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @11:21AM (#33096720)

I think we have that today, we could pass a carbon tax tomorrow for example. It’s the political will that is lacking.

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