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Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by andrekandre on Monday October 03, 2022 @10:01AM (#33067632)
i would just say to that, if censorship didn't work, then why are people (especially on "the right" nowadays) so up in arms about it?

is it just a grift?

Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by naasking on Monday October 03, 2022 @03:47PM (#33072698)
Do you agree that torture is wrong regardless of its effectiveness? Should people not object to things that they see as wrong?
Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by andrekandre on Monday October 03, 2022 @06:34PM (#33074595)
yes, but the persons point wasn't that its good/bad but wether its the best disinfectant (in my interpretation that means effectiveness)

so, censorship may be morally bad or wrong and also very effective, and its the fact that it is effective and working is why there is a very loud objection to it

thats all im pointing out

sorry if maybe we are talking past each other!

Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by naasking on Monday October 03, 2022 @08:43PM (#33075483)
> yes, but the persons point wasn't that its good/bad but wether its the best disinfectant (in my interpretation that means effectiveness)

And my point is, people can make a big deal about something because they think it's wrong, regardless of whether it ultimately works.

Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by andrekandre on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @03:16AM (#33077414)
thats definitely true for many people for sure