Anyone else find it unsettling that the acronym the social justice crowd settled on was DIE (Diversity, Inclusion, Equality)?

Equity, not equality. Big difference (almost the opposite meaning !)

What is equity if not equality then? (Honest question, as I just assumed it was equality as generally that's something we've been historically striving for.)

I'll do my best at an honest answer then :)

Equity is equality of outcomes (done by explicitly redirecting resources as needed to get this result). As opposed to equal opportunity which is what is generally meant by "equality".

Or to ELI5 it's treating people differently to get them all to the same position, instead of treating everyone the same. The argument for "equity" is then that we aren't all starting from the same place. It's the same line of reasoning that justified affirmative action in the US.

Opportunities and rights on the one hand, outcomes on the other. e.g.

- Equality: We are both free to operate in an open market to secure the best outcomes for ourselves

- Equity: You made $1000, I made $100, we both get $550

Wokes will bend over backwards to paint equality as an impossible project, claiming that it is doomed because of historical white supremacy, generational oppression, moon phases, etc. We're asked to believe uncritically that the goal of equal opportunity is equal outcome, and commanded to pursue equal outcome at all costs lest we are labeled racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic and misogynist; de-platformed from all social media and made infamous and unemployable so we can't work to support our families. Equality is the American civil rights movement, equity is literally communism.

There’s a lot of nonsense to unpack in that comment.

Equity is not “literally communism”, it’s the pretty simple understanding that if you always start 40 meters ahead of someone in a 100 meter race, you’re likely to always finish first and they won’t have a chance.

So we put more (and therefore unequal) resources into helping the competitor who’s having to run 40 more meters than you.

> So we put more (and therefore unequal) resources into helping the competitor who’s having to run 40 more meters than you.

So, to each according to their needs, and from each according to their ability, more or less?

> ...equity is literally communism.

That's incorrect. The goal or schema of communism is not "equal outcomes". That might be the crude rubric of some state capitalist societies of the past, e.g. equal wages regardless of rank, but in true communism the abundance of resources permits anyone to have their needs met and for anyone to realize their full abilities.

One can criticize its naivety. But please do not conflate it with the mean and frankly misanthropic world view of the woke crowd, in which large swathes of humanity are condemned to endless self flagellation.

> in true communism the abundance of resources

heh

Don't worry, they are pretty interchangeable, depending upon context. The dictionary definitions show both can be used for the same meaning, say for equal rights and for actual equal carving out of resources and means. Or something specific in the case of finance or law. And the woke crowd evidently have their own stricter definitions of both.

I'd avoid using either in any polemic for a better world, and stick to the original words of the communist manifesto, which have not been bettered: from each according to their ability, to each according to their need!

No, because the acronym is DEI…

I've always said DIE

mhmm, because of course everyone knows that we order the letters in an acronym according to the least rememberable order, right?

You seem to know very little about the topic and yet seem to have strong opinions about what the “social justice crowd” is up to.

I’d reflect on that.

You seem to defend the social justice crowd without putting in any critical thinking for yourself.

I'd reflect on that.

It's equity not equality. In a way, the opposite of equality.

I've never seen it ordered that way before reading the reactionary comments in this comment section.