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Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by thrown_22 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:20PM (#33030120)
First they came for the facebook posts, I did not speak out because I didn't use facebook.

Then they came for the internet registrars, I did not speak out because I didn't have a website.

Then they came for the payment processors, I did not speak out because I didn't have an online business.

When they came for my bank account there was no where left to speak.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:54PM (#33030336)
Just to be clear. The “They” coming for the Facebook posts is Mark Zuckerberg, owner of Facebook.

Give me your car. I want to key some stuff into the side of it. If you don’t you’re censoring me.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by MikePlacid on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:43PM (#33030651)
Facebook operates in California. It’s users are - by Facebook provided user agreement- bound in their relationship with Facebook by California laws.

Now, the constitution of California provides positive right of speech to it’s citizens: Every person may freely speak, write and publish his or her sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of this right. See this dot here? no exception for Zuckerbergs. Or your car.

Then, there is courts’ interpretation of this right. It was as following (by memory): if you created a public forum, then you can’t remove people from it for their speech contents only . That’s why California malls can’t remove beggars soliciting money (you car is ok, it’s not a public forum).

Now, as in now, California becomes a one-party state (feels like home, sometimes). The same Supreme Court (but with nowadays judges) decides: is Facebook a public forum? You can guess the answer.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Friday September 30, 2022 @12:09AM (#33030817)
So you agree. I can carve a message into the side your car, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Nice. I’ve got my knife. Let’s meet up! Afterwards, we’ll swing by the television station and make them broadcast us live, free of charge or control, a six hour lecture about our novel interpretation constitutional law.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by thrown_22 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:53PM (#33030705)
How do you fit 4 billion people in your car?
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Friday September 30, 2022 @12:19AM (#33030881)
I don’t. I censor them.
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by thrown_22 on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:36AM (#33032064)
That must be a very big car to have enough space for 4 billion people to write whatever they want on it.
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:26AM (#33032405)
They don’t. I censor them
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by thrown_22 on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:33AM (#33032456)
Yeah but you'd need to have enough space for them to write if they want to.

Otherwise you'd be making an argument in bad faith.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Friday September 30, 2022 @01:47PM (#33038148)
They can write small.

Also, since you seem to be new I'll let you know. This isn't bad faith. It's reductio ad absurdum.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by thrown_22 on Friday September 30, 2022 @06:33PM (#33041625)
So your argument on why facebook with 4 billion users should ban whatever it likes on its platform is that a car that can fit more a dozen people shouldn't be vandalized.

Yes, I can see why your argument is absurd.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:17PM (#33043167)
No. They’re both private property.
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by thrown_22 on Saturday October 01, 2022 @01:18AM (#33044106)
So were people.
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by jonathankoren on Saturday October 01, 2022 @05:31PM (#33050322)
I thought we were talking about government compelled speech.