Re:Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
by hef19898 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @03:51PM
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Where did you get that idea from? Without looking it up, I suspect Germany, as a NATO country, helped Ukraine as other NATO allies did. And supported the orange revolution, as the other EU nations did before 2014.
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Re:Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
by hef19898 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @04:52PM
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Some quick numbers: 2020/21 exports of weapons from EU cointries to Russia were aroind 100 million (or thereabouts, might even include icebreakers, good luck using those for conquering Mariupol). Since February 2022 EU countries committed to send 2.5 billion of military gear to the Ukrainian forces.
I guess details and context still matter.
Re:Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
by megous on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:10AM
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Context is also that Russia trained their invasion forces in a modern German built facility.
Re:Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
by hef19898 on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:21AM
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Unless said facility was build after 2014 I don't see the problem here. Not that the training was very successful as far as all that invasion business goes, was it?
Re:Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
by mantas on Thursday September 29, 2022 @04:11PM
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Germany (along with France and others) supplied military-related stuff to Russia, even after 2014.
Re:Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
by hef19898 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @04:39PM
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Under contracts signed before 2014. Seems like a detail worth mentioning.
EDIT: Which is bad reason, but at least an understandable when it comes to foreign policy. And it is not that arms exports are actually hindered by morals, all the exports to Saudi, UAE, Mexico and every other crisis region show otherwise. Personally, I think the West shouldn't export to those countries or conflict zones. The West also needs the industrial base to maintain reasonably strong militaries so, and with defense spending being a less than popular thing after the Cold War ended, exports are necessary for that. This could change so, and already did in Germany with additional military spending.