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Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by dijit on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:49AM (#33019842)
The original author of terraform (Mitchel Hashimoto) was not an Operations Engineer before writing Terraform?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchellh/

Or are you saying that he's not the author? Commits seem to suggest otherwise.

  commit fb9c58f0e20a85a5358142ddb39a2f74d3bbe69b
  Author: Mitchell Hashimoto <[email protected]>
  Date:   Fri May 23 11:03:38 2014 -0700

     config: better error message

  commit 089822a36f0a5e4c583ab401b7496b48bfa31d65
  Author: Mitchell Hashimoto <[email protected]>
  Date:   Fri May 23 10:52:19 2014 -0700

     config: some comments

  commit ec3f72703c82f50787ef86498d856a5798900ad8
  Author: Mitchell Hashimoto <[email protected]>
  Date:   Thu May 22 16:56:28 2014 -0700

     Initial work on config

  commit 649cf336e86da10910f6e50ea3cfaad507a2e336
  Author: Mitchell Hashimoto <[email protected]>
  Date:   Wed May 21 16:28:53 2014 -0700

     Initial commit
Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by jen20 on Friday September 30, 2022 @12:55PM (#33037330)
Per my understanding (as one of the earliest contributors to Terraform and employees of HashiCorp) that indeed he was a developer with an interest in operations, not a sysadmin. Mostly consulting work for rails.
Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by arinlen on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:00AM (#33019973)
> (...) an Operations Engineer (...)

An operations engineer and a sysadmin are two entirely different roles.

A system administrator administers systems while an operations engineer dedicated their time writing code to automate processes.

Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by dijit on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:04AM (#33020027)
You're conflating an IT Technician and a Sysadmin.

Sysadmins automate their work. Operations Engineer is just another title for sysadmin.

Systems Engineer is also another title for the same thing.

Platform Engineering (depending on where you are) is yet another variation.

If you're responsible for the operating system, monitoring, clustering, hardware etc; then you're firmly in "sysadmin" land.

Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by boltzmann-brain on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:07PM (#33022616)
This whole string of conversation is some of the most horrendous navel gazing I've had in my comments for a while.
Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by dijit on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:10PM (#33022667)
Welcome to Hackernews.

Pedantry is requisite.

Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by arinlen on Thursday September 29, 2022 @01:05PM (#33023728)
> Sysadmins automate their work.

So do janitors. What's your point?

> Operations Engineer is just another title for sysadmin.

It really isn't. That makes as much sense as claiming that DevOps is just a sysadmin that's also a developer.

Re:We reduced our server costs by moving away from AWS by icedchai on Thursday September 29, 2022 @04:44PM (#33026912)
Job titles are mostly meaningless when comparing across organizations (and often within organizations, when they are large enough.)

Many "operations engineers" are actually sysadmins. Many "devops" are really sysadmins also doing development.