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Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by tjoff on Thursday September 29, 2022 @03:37AM (#33017571)
Of course a normal person doesn't want such a setup.

But a normal person doesn't want a smart tv either. It sucks. And that is when it is working, and it will stop working. And it does spy on you.

I get that people want to like smart TVs. Unfortunately, you can't.

Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by satysin on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:02AM (#33018428)
I am confused you say a normal person doesn't want a smart tv but then on the next line say they do want a smart TV?

I assume you mean normal people don't like crappy smart TV experiences with slow and crappy apps but if they were smooth and fast and easy to use they would like them more? If so that is true of pretty much everything technology related :) Nobody likes using a slow, crappy computer that takes 5 minutes to load a webpage do they.

I think normal people love smart TVs they just wish they were better especially as they age a bit.

What would be fantastic is a modular smart TV where the screen has a standardised connection for a compute unit that you can replace for a much smaller cost than replacing the whole TV itself. If you're happy with your screen it is frustrating you need to buy a whole new TV just because the shitty SoC can't handle all the new stuff Netflix, Disney, etc. add to their apps over time.

Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by Nursie on Thursday September 29, 2022 @05:09AM (#33018075)
> But a normal person doesn't want a smart tv either.

Erm, yeah, they do. They want a tv that's got the netflix and stuff all built in. A 'normal' person doesn't want to deal with an extra device that may or may not have a separate remote control. They want simplicity. Smart tvs give them that.

Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by rbanffy on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:32AM (#33020379)
Ideally you should have dumb TVs and smart set top boxes. TVs last much longer than the puny computers in them.
Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by Nursie on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:40AM (#33020467)
Why is that ideal?

I'm perfectly happy to have a smart tv, it does what I need without extra wires or remotes. I have zero desire to have a separate box. If I'm still using my tv when it stops getting updates and being able to stream, then I'll investigate and add-on for it, not now, because in 5 years that would likely be out of date too.

I don't get this weird obsession with dumb screens. Device convergence is excellent. The fewer boxes and wires and the more capable the devices, the better.

Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by rbanffy on Friday September 30, 2022 @05:20AM (#33032746)
> I don't get this weird obsession with dumb screens.

My Apple TV is from the previous generation. Little by little it's losing software support. Should I replace the whole TV, which is still pretty good, when I finally upgrade the device?

The TV turns on when there is an active HDMI signal. The two volume buttons are the only thing I use every time I need it. If the Apple TV remote had volume buttons (like the new ones) I wouldn't need the TV remote at all.

It's not an "obsession". It's rational use of resources. Why does my TV need to be a full computer? If it is, what should I do when Netflix drops support for the application it's running?

Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by scarface74 on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:12AM (#33035083)
Netflix never drops support for anything. A couple of years ago, I dug my first generation iPad (2010) out, reset it, downloaded Netflix (you can download the “last compatible version” from the App Store) and it worked.

Netflix still works on the first gen Roku devices from 2011 - at least it did a couple of years ago.

Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by tjoff on Thursday September 29, 2022 @05:36AM (#33018236)
If that was true it would be fine. But that is not what they are getting.
Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by scarface74 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:54AM (#33019906)
So what are they getting?
Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by tjoff on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:24AM (#33032391)
Something clunky and crappy that doesn't work with everything they use and ultimately stops working.
Re:RootMyTV is a user-friendly exploit for rooting/jailbreak... by scarface74 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:54AM (#33019903)
In what reality do “normal”people not want TVs with their most used streaming apps built in?