Re:Dear Chess World
by WastingMyTime89 on Monday September 26, 2022 @09:18PM
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I think you might want to read the rules of chess tournaments. You will quickly realise that in fact Magnus doesn’t have a choice of who he plays against and can’t actually resign for no reason.
Can you please explain what you are insinuating?
Magnus just recently quit a tournament and resigned a game in another one, storngy suggesting that you are mistaken.
Re:Dear Chess World
by WastingMyTime89 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @06:17AM
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I am not insinuating anything. I am stating that tournaments have rules which include a format – determining which player another player encounters – and sportsman behaviours and terms of play. Most were put in place to avoid players throwing games to get more rest and avoid collusion.
For exemple, Carlsen had to play at least one move for the game not to be forfeited and I’m fairly sure he is running afoul a sportsman behaviour rules by resigning on move one but the tournament isn’t pressing because he is Magnus.
Re:Dear Chess World
by BurningFrog on Monday September 26, 2022 @10:28PM
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You have the choice of which tournaments to play in though.
What rule is there against resigning?
Re:Dear Chess World
by dwohnitmok on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:02AM
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I'm not sure about the specifics of chess, but in most other kinds of competitions there are either explicit rules against or implicit agreements not to resign too early, i.e. throwing the match. If you resign when you are not actually losing, you are advantaging your opponent over all other players in the tournament (this matters a lot for tournaments with round-based elimination).
That reason makes sense, and there are certainly rules in tournaments against early draws, but I'd never heard of a rule against resigning early. My understanding of Magnus playing one move was that you couldn't resign until the game started, so he just started the game and resigned immediately, but maybe that's mistaken.
I guess it hasn't come up much since the personal loss of losing a game is usually pretty great at a high level. Maybe we'll see such rules after Magnus' resignation.
Re:Dear Chess World
by umanwizard on Monday September 26, 2022 @09:23PM
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I agree with you, and I think throwing the game against Hans was poor form. My point was just that he has the right not to enter future tournaments to which Hans is invited.
> Magnus is just refusing to invest ... (and rating points)
I think resigning on move 2 might just be investing rating points to avoid investing time and energy... not avoiding investing them.
Re:Dear Chess World
by umanwizard on Monday September 26, 2022 @08:53PM
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I’m confident Magnus doesn’t care about his rating on chess24.com.
Was this tournament also FIDE rated? I genuinely don’t know and can’t find that information via google.
Magnus is just refusing to invest time and energy (and rating points) to play against someone he doesn’t like, which is absolutely his right. Nobody has the right to force Magnus or anyone else to play against them.