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Re:How to explain zero-knowledge protocols to your children ... by tromp on Monday September 26, 2022 @06:33AM (#32981390)
> To be a proper zero knowledge proof, it mustn't prove to bystanders that Mick knows the secret.

Citation needed.

Re:How to explain zero-knowledge protocols to your children ... by daveloyall on Monday September 26, 2022 @10:58AM (#32983975)
This is the second time I've read this Ali Baba paper and I'm pretty sure I got hung up on this, too. And I don't see what that property is good for (though I am aware that other people do).

Maybe the paper should have a preface. It might work for entertaining someone who already knows all about zero knowledge proofs, but it doesn't seem to do much to educate those who do not.

Re:How to explain zero-knowledge protocols to your children ... by vintermann on Monday September 26, 2022 @09:45AM (#32983042)
Try any cryptography textbook! This is the whole point of zero knowledge proofs: that you can convince someone, yet they have no evidence (i.e, "zero knowledge") that they can take to another person and expect to convince them.
Re:How to explain zero-knowledge protocols to your children ... by tromp on Monday September 26, 2022 @10:32AM (#32983619)
No, the zero knowledge part is that they only learn that you know a secret, but they don't learn anything about the secret. It's not about convincing others.
Re:How to explain zero-knowledge protocols to your children ... by vintermann on Monday September 26, 2022 @12:01PM (#32984808)
If you get some piece of evidence that you can take to others, then you do in fact learn something about the secret.