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Re:Target Venus not Mars for first crewed mission to another... by unnouinceput on Sunday September 25, 2022 @04:00PM (#32975419)
>finally Apollo 11-17 actually were "boots on the ground"<

Nitpick: Apollo 11, 12 and 14-17 were boots on the ground. 13 had no boots on the ground.

Re:Target Venus not Mars for first crewed mission to another... by ncmncm on Sunday September 25, 2022 @05:56PM (#32976763)
They had the boots, and meant to put them on the ground. But Fred Haise would have suffered more terribly.