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Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by StanislavPetrov on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:33PM (#32973746)
As someone who lived on Long Island at the time, I can tell you that there were dozens, if not hundreds, of eye witnesses from both the beach and the water that claimed to have seen a missile fly up and hit the plane. There was explosive residue consistent with a missile found on on the wreckage of the plane. One of the lead investigators thought it was a missile, and he was shuffled out of the investigation.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by jliptzin on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:43PM (#32974538)
Don’t know why you are being downvoted, I am also from Long Island and remember the same accounts at the time
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by woodruffw on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:53PM (#32974680)
Because it’s exactly the kind of circumstantial, already-mediated evidence we’re talking about: can you, as a civilian, reliably distinguish a missile arc from a burning fuselage at dusk from miles away? I know I can’t.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by cool_dude85 on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:14PM (#32974923)
The one's going up and the other's coming down.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by woodruffw on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:23PM (#32975000)
If you read the NTSB’s report, you’ll note that they address this explicitly: the front half of the plane more or less sheared off, causing the back half to pitch up before descending.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by StanislavPetrov on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @01:10AM (#33004458)
That was the "CIA analysis" that was published on the front page of Newsday after the crash that had absolutely nothing to do with the hundreds of eye-witness accounts. Hundreds of people saw a missile fly thousands of feet up from sea level to the plane, which subsequently exploded. Nothing these people saw had anything to do with what happened to the plane after it broke up, which is what the CIA/sanitized-NTSB report addressed. Their further absurd claim that the explosive residue found on the wreckage from the plane was tracked in on the bottom of some passenger's shoe was similarly insulting to the intelligence of everyone who was following the investigation. Combined with the purging of several lead investigators - decades-long veterans of many crash investigations - who insisted that the plane was shot down by a missile, everything points to a missile attack and a coverup.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by jrs235 on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:24PM (#32975007)
If you think you know you can't you're probably right. I would think and give credibility to the idea that people can distinguish between something moving up/away from the horizon into the sky and vice versa.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by woodruffw on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:29PM (#32975069)
Please see the adjacent response: part of the fuselage almost certainly ascended before its final descent. That’s the part that I am not confident I would be able to distinguish.