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Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by steveBK123 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:16AM (#32962797)
Well if the whole fleet is 30 cars (asof this summer according to electrek - https://electrek.co/2022/06/23/gm-cruise-takes-first-fares-f...)

3 out of 30 is pretty pretty bad!

Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by jfim on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:46AM (#32963086)
I'd assume that the cars see significantly more utilization than a normal passenger vehicle. An autonomous vehicle doesn't have a driver that gets tired, so in theory it's possible to operate it 24x7, minus the downtime for repairs, cleaning, and charging.

A better metric would be incidents per hour driven, not per vehicle.

Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by steveBK123 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:59AM (#32963228)
There's lot of ways you can measure it to make it sound better. However it comes across as a sort of centralized future cyberpunk failure mode.

Again we are talking about 3 of the 30 vehicles they have on road failing at the same time. Imagine if 10% of taxis in your city suddenly froze in place for 20 minutes until a special tow truck came after a pedestrian called the number on the back?

Or if all taxis in your city, when traveling through a particular intersection froze in place, requiring bystanders to call a response team from the taxi dispatch to come out and show the driver what to do?

It would be interesting to see the metrics of number of interventions/calls/responses Cruise is experiencing daily/weekly/montlhy.

Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by jfim on Saturday September 24, 2022 @02:25PM (#32965324)
That has happened already, although for human driven vehicles. Yandex taxi was hacked earlier this year and all taxis were made to go to a certain location, causing massive traffic jams.

In practice, if companies have these kinds of issues regularly, it'll be similar to how scooters and dock free bikes have been rolled out: they'll be allowed initially, then the city officials will kick them out if they're causing more trouble than they're worth.

Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by reidjs on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:39AM (#32963015)
Idk if it is bad. The way the article headline is worded it sounds like the cars are crashing into puppies and grandmas. In reality they just caused traffic to get backed up for about 20 minutes because a sensor broke or something. This seems like a misleading headline by kron4.
Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by steveBK123 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:43AM (#32963055)
I think techies make a lot of excuses for tech that just isn't even remotely there yet. Driverless cars is very much that category of tech.

If 10% of the Toyota Camrys on the road in a given city suddenly froze in place and caused traffic jams simultaneously in a major US city, requiring roadside assistance, we'd all be laughing at those incompetent dinosaurs.

Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by reidjs on Saturday September 24, 2022 @11:33AM (#32963632)
Not remotely there? It already drives better than very old and very young drivers, as well as people who are drunk or tired. At least this tech should get our worst drivers off the road.
Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by steveBK123 on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:18AM (#32962812)
another article claiming 30 driverless fleet size - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/driverless-taxis-a...
Re:Cruise driverless vehicles involved in 3 separate traffic... by rascul on Saturday September 24, 2022 @10:43AM (#32963057)
3 out of 30 may or may not be bad. How many miles over how many hours have these cars driven?