I would never choose a Google specific cross platform environment. A cross platform mobile environment constantly needs updating to stay consistent with the vendor’s platform. I wouldn’t trust Google to give that much attention to Flutter especially seeing they are moving away from it internally for iOS development.

https://9to5google.com/2021/10/10/google-ios-apps-native/

You don't need to trust Google, but it certainly don't mean making general statements about what Google is doing. The article says nothing about discouraging Flutter use and given Flutter 3 came out this year, Google is still supporting and using it. Flutter has iOS UI replication of look and feel, which is what that article says Google is encouraging. Fuschia hasn't come out yet, but it still uses Dart and Flutter is used to create apps on it.

I'll take a bet, use and choose Flutter for a long time.

You have to trust Google not to abandon support for it and to keep up with iOS latest changes.

Anytime that you emulate a platforms UI, if the vendor makes changes, a native widget will take advantage of it a replicated one won’t.

The fact that Google is working on a third operating system (Fuscia) is not exactly a vote of confidence on Google’s ability to focus.

Google has a lot of trust in its infrastructure projects. You assert they don't therefore don't use it and you have many Google front-end platform projects that serve as counter examples to your assertion. Angular being the most popular open source Google front-end project.

Like I said, you are welcome to distrust Google, but your general assertions are far fetched and stems from Google's product engineering that has to expand and contract its offerings as they are expected to make money unlike its open source projects.

Angular has to work in one place the web.

Ever heard of NaCL? Google Chrome Apps? The many abandoned IOT platform (ie Android Things) initiatives? Swift for TensorFlow? App Maker? Fabric? You realize that Google abandoned the original Angular project (AngularJS) and made a completely new incompatible version.

As far as not abandoning “infrastructure projects”, they literally abandoned a physical infrastructure project and left city streets in ruins.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/googl...

I'm not interested in going in circles with this, but let's humor for fun some of what you've picked just this once. Original angular, superseded. NaCL, superseded. AppMaker, superceded. Swift for Tensorflow, are you saying Tensorflow was deprecated? Far as I know, Tensorflow is alive and well, so this choice is hazy.

Any of these projects, except angular have the same visibility and impact Flutter has? You're trying very hard to deride Google Infrastructure and its your very generalization that weakens your claims that they should not be trusted. Anyway, I'm done with this thread as far as it goes.

You don't trust them, cool great, but don't make generalizations about what Google is doing because of your distrust.

TensorFlow for Swift.

Angular was “superseded” by a completely incompatible framework causing a major rewrite. Does that bode well for Flutter?

As far as Google not abandoning popular services - remember Google Reader?

https://killedbygoogle.com/

Google’s entire promo culture is about engineers and product managers building something new and not maintaining old projects - this is the reason behind 6 messaging apps - three were introduced in one year.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-messaging-apps-86784...

Not to mention three completely different operating system initiatives - ChromeOS, Android, and Fuscia.

Good link. So cross platform UI as an idea is dead.

So .. what would you use?

Whichever JavaScript based mobile framework is the most popular. I’m not attuned to the mobile space. He said he already knew Typescript.

https://bashooka.com/coding/javascript-frameworks-for-cross-...

React Native, or React in a web view.

Actually - you have a bunch of options for building web front ends in F#

- via Fable (F# to JS Compiler)

- WebSharper (tightly integrated web frontend and backend)

- Blazor/Bolero Server Side (like phoenix live view)

- Blazor/Bolero WASM

We also start to see Avalonia running on WASM, but I wouldn’t say it’s ready yet.

When I googled how to create wasm apps, I got blazor. I come from a python background, so this is tempting to try our blazor for an interactive app, is it recommended? ( you don’t hear much about Microsoft tech here only Js or python)..

As a long time Microsoft stack dev, I don't recommend Blazor for first time devs on dotnet.

There are a LOT of friction points that are just really difficult for new devs to work out.

dotnet is really, really good at building scalable, fast, secure web APIs but it is mediocre for building web UIs

haven’t used it for any big apps. We use Fable + React

Given he gives no examples of "Flutter as well "suffers from many bugs and problems" and given one is bound to use third party libraries, maybe he refers to third party libraries he chose being buggy. It is too general and very unclear what this means. Dart/Flutter has been a wonderful experience by far when it comes to cross platform libraries.