Censorship by big tech at the behest of the U.S. government?

Re:Censorship by big tech at the behest of the U.S. government? by puffoflogic on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:17PM (#32943415)

> Yet, later on the govt did come out with protocols that strangely, mimicked Zelenko & McCullough's material.

No no no this is disinformation! A protocol which includes *checks notes* Pfizermectin is totally different than a protocol which includes ivermectin. You can't compare the two!

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Re:Censorship by big tech at the behest of the U.S. government? by nradov on Thursday September 22, 2022 @07:37PM (#32946044)

There haven't been any high-quality studies (consistent with evidence-based medicine criteria) which show ivermectin to be clinically effective as an early COVID-19 treatment. If you know of such a study then could you please provide a citation?

If by "Pfizermectin" you are referring to Paxlovid, that is not accurate. There are significant biochemical and pharmacokinetic differences between the molecules.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/12/02/how-does-pfizers-paxlov...

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Re:Censorship by big tech at the behest of the U.S. government? by OrvalWintermute on Thursday September 22, 2022 @10:51PM (#32947456)

on Ivermectin the evidence is over the place. Many of the foreign studies definitely show benefit. Many of the other studies don't. It is a real trainwreck. Consequently, I think it is safe to say that this is up in the air.

However, the McCullough protocol [1], and the closely related Zelenko protocols were not only about Ivermectin, HCQ, or Zinc, but instead cocktails of drugs with proven efficacy, and an overall approach to treatment prior to hospitalization.

Referencing the late 2020 publication:

Sanitization

Masks

hand washing / hand sanitizer Fresh air / Air circulation Negative pressure air isolation

Supplements:

Zinc with hydroxychloroquine Vitamin D & Vitamin C

Antivirals / Antibiotics

Quercetin Favipiravir Azithromycin Doxycycline

Mono-Clonal antibodies

bamlanivimab (MAB) casirivimab and imdevimab (MABs)

Anti-Inflammatory Colchicine

Corticosteroids

budesonide dexamethasone

Antiplatelet agents and antithrombotics

aspirin heparin Orals - pixaban, rivaroxaban, edoxaban, dabigatran

[1] https://www.imrpress.com/journal/RCM/21/4/10.31083/j.rcm.202...

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Re:Censorship by big tech at the behest of the U.S. government? by nradov on Thursday September 22, 2022 @11:53PM (#32947845)

If the evidence for ivermectin is really "all over the place" then could you please provide a citation? I'm only asking for a single high-quality RCT. Any one will do. The single link you provided is not that.

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Re:Censorship by big tech at the behest of the U.S. government? by OrvalWintermute on Friday September 23, 2022 @02:19AM (#32948652)

https://ivmmeta.com/

This is why I say it is all over the place.

Also, RCTs have significant challenges in them

https://academic.oup.com/ejo/article/37/5/457/2599978

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