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Re:Did Neanderthals make art? by benji-york on Thursday September 22, 2022 @12:33PM (#32941275)
Tangentially, this reminds me of my favorite—if flawed—definition of art (which I can't find a source for at the moment):

    Art is anything a human does that is not necessary for survival.
Re:Did Neanderthals make art? by userlandmax on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:00PM (#32943176)
This is close to Scott McCloud's definition in his book Understanding Comics.
Re:Did Neanderthals make art? by benji-york on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:28PM (#32943549)
Thanks for the pointer! His definition is very similar and may well be the original source.
Re:Did Neanderthals make art? by smegsicle on Thursday September 22, 2022 @02:14PM (#32942612)
a well-crafted spear is not art? that seems almost backwards- art is anything that takes skill to create

the associate of art with uselessness and dissociated aesthetics is more a product of an age of decadence than anything central to appreciation of artforms

Re:Did Neanderthals make art? by userlandmax on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:02PM (#32943213)
A well crafted spear is indeed art - since it doesn't absolutely need to be well crafted, it is that aspect of the spear-as-tool, specifically, that is considered art, and elevates it to that realm. This is why OP said the argument is flawed, because it is. It becomes highly subjective quite fast. But thats the reasoning.
Re:Did Neanderthals make art? by smegsicle on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:10PM (#32946292)
a better-crafted spear will provide more survival benefit, whether by being stronger, sharper, or more reliable when thrown