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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by i_am_jl on Thursday September 22, 2022 @07:19AM (#32937358)
It'd be hard to argue that MS has a monopoly on real time collaboration software when Slack exists.

It'd be similarly difficult to argue they're acting anti-competitively when Slack is thriving.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by trelane on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:11AM (#32937760)
I think usually the argument is that they're leveraging an _existing_ foothold to gain advantage in a _new_ market. So the existing foothold is MS Office and MS Office 360, and the new market is messaging.

How they gained this foothold in desktop productivity software is left as an exercise to the reader.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by i_am_jl on Friday September 23, 2022 @08:09AM (#32950799)
Hey, thanks! I don't know much about antitrust, so this is likely to be a dumb question;

Why is messaging a new/different market for Microsoft regarding O365? Microsoft has been including business-targeted messaging/collab tools in O365 for years. Skype for Business preceded Slack, let alone Office Communicator or Linc, not to mention Outlook.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by pc86 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:20AM (#32937850)
Is using existing products to leverage yourself into a new market anticompetitive, or "how any company expands into a new market?"
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by trelane on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:43AM (#32938058)
Depends on the scale of your foothold
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by sumedh on Thursday September 22, 2022 @10:30AM (#32939266)
> Slack is thriving.

Is Slack profitable?

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by i_am_jl on Friday September 23, 2022 @07:34AM (#32950464)
$780m profit in 2021.