Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future

Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f... by dariosalvi78 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:55AM (#32935970)

I don't see de-growth as an extreme option, in fact it is the only outcome possible in the long term, either in a planned manner, or through collapse.

In terms of denialists, I am afraid that actually the majority of people are overwhelmed by the huge issues we are facing, and just think we should enjoy life and forget about any responsibility.

I don't want to lose hope, but as things are now, I am afraid that we are far more likely to face collapse than to find a solution.

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Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f... by psychoslave on Thursday September 22, 2022 @04:03AM (#32936032)

What do we mean with de-growth here? Human world population? Energy-consumption per human? long-lasting-non-recyclable-waste per human? Mankind GDP? Wealth distribution discrepancy?

On collapse, the only serious book I red was Jared Diamond's "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed".

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Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f... by dariosalvi78 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @05:02AM (#32936424)

I mean mostly GDP (yes economists, I am looking at you), but, alas, all these dimensions are linked.

I guess that decoupling is possible to some extent. I don't want to lose the hope that we can live happy lives without destroying the planet (or ourselves), but we need a very bold strategy, and I haven't seen any yet.

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Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f... by MrPatan on Thursday September 22, 2022 @06:42AM (#32937093)

GDP is not something that happens in an economist's office.

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