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Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by nl on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:30AM (#32935775)
WTF is it with this weird "things were better in the old days" nostalgia? They really, really weren't!

> Original skype would probably work better than zoom does today with a few tweaks

When it came out, Skype was amazing because it let you get video calls on your computer. The audio was flaky (I paid for a number for a work line and yeah - wasn't good!), the video broke up all the time, and it dropped out a lot. But we were new to video calls that worked at all and it seemed like a miracle!

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by edejong on Thursday September 22, 2022 @05:31AM (#32936608)
Totally not my experience. I had long, uninterrupted conversations with my (now) wife. Daily. During my studies I organized group meetings with dozens of participants without many problems. Skypes original decentralized network design was genius.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by lordnacho on Thursday September 22, 2022 @06:04AM (#32936834)
Same here. To me Skype should have been the last mover in this space. Everything just worked. I actually had an investment meeting with a Skype competitor who took us through the whole infrastructure of why Skype worked and what he was going to do.

Now a few years later there's a zillion ways to do a video call, and Skype itself doesn't seem to be as good as it once was. I really wonder what on earth happened.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by vasvir on Thursday September 22, 2022 @06:32AM (#32937033)
Skype was "good" back then because it could pierce firewalls and nat setups with its p2p magic. See https://www.theregister.com/2003/10/08/how_does_skype_get_th... but if you look around you will find more info...
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by JohnFen on Thursday September 22, 2022 @11:30AM (#32940306)
> WTF is it with this weird "things were better in the old days" nostalgia? They really, really weren't!

A lot of things really, really were. Some weren't.

Generally speaking, I do think that modern software tends to be worse in terms of usability, robustness, and resource usage. But it tends to be prettier and have more "features", so that's something.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad? by nl on Friday September 23, 2022 @04:08AM (#32949220)
I've gone months without rebooting my MBP, and weeks without restarting Firefox. I don't remember the last time software crashed and I lost work.

15 years ago I'd reboot nightly because things were more stable.

20 years ago I debugged an issue in the JVM where it was deleting any file it touched (http://nicklothian.com/blog/2003/08/13/a-java-bug-worthy-of-...).

25 years ago it was normal for a computer to crash multiple times a day and wasn't uncommon for files that had been saved to get corrupted by a crash.

So yeah, very happy with modern software reliability.