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Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by cmrdporcupine on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @04:29PM (#32931094)
I think the kleptocracy in Russia feels cornered and vulnerable. They are entirely dependent on a) the subservience of their own population and on b) high energy prices. Too many times in the last 10 years they have felt the squeeze on both. And so they're lashing out with a brutal mixture of old-style colonial imperialism and jingoistic nationalism -- "why should you get an empire if we don't?"

Hence Lavrov constantly crowing about the hypocrisy of "the west." It's not that they think what the US empire has done is immoral. It's that they (and by they I don't mean the Russian people, but instead a select cadre at the top) want the same thing for themselves.

The irony is there was no singular unified west until Russia invaded Ukraine. Out of that conflict, they have inadvertently forged a much more united western opposition to them.

I hated the whole concept of NATO until Russia invaded Ukraine.

So yes, I agree, think Putin overplayed his hand in a clumsy way. But he may have had no other choice.

The parallels to WWI are strong.

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by PontifexMinimus on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @07:17PM (#32932901)
> Hence Lavrov constantly crowing about the hypocrisy of "the west." It's not that they think what the US empire has done is immoral. It's that they (and by they I don't mean the Russian people, but instead a select cadre at the top) want the same thing for themselves.

Yes. What Lavrov doesn't understand is that the West isn't an empire, it's a series of states with similar cultures and political and economic systems, that voluntarily choose to work together. But Russia doesn't seem to realise that there are other ways of getting people to do what you want than brutality and threats.

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by diimdeep on Monday September 26, 2022 @03:18PM (#32987089)
Please watch Sergey Lavrov's Address to the UN General Assembly [1]

> What Lavrov doesn't understand is that the West isn't an empire series of states with similar cultures and political and economic systems, that voluntarily choose to work together. But Russia doesn't seem to realise that there are other ways of getting people to do what you want than brutality and threats. > brutality and threats

Brutality and threats is what U.S. sanctions and U.S. national security strategy are.

[1] https://youtu.be/ADhvhsbAXqo

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by PontifexMinimus on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @10:43PM (#33015746)
> Brutality and threats is what U.S. sanctions and U.S. national security strategy are.

True but irrelevant -- my whole point was the USA (alongside most nations) has other tools to getting what it wants.

Russia is a country whose only tool is a hammer, and all problems look to it like nails.