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Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by Animats on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @03:28PM (#32930262)
Task and Purpose has some discussion by a former USMC Lt Colonel who now works for the RAND corporation as an analyst.[1]

“It won’t be pretty, it won’t be efficient, but they’re going to be able to find the people. I think the more relevant issue is: How capable and ready are they going to be — not very. How much training are they willing to give them before they send them out to the front lines. Right now, the indications are — the way they’ve pumped units into Ukraine — is not a lot and certainly not enough.”

This is a classic Russian style of warfare. Throw conscripts into battle. The survivors will become good soldiers or die.

Usually countries do this when they're being invaded, desperate, and fighting on their own territory with the support of the locals. It's rare to see it for a country that's the attacker and is operating in hostile territory. That takes a lot more training, organization, and support.

This can go on for a long time. Russia does not have enough power to conquer Ukraine, and Ukraine does not have enough power to conquer Russia. But they can fight for years.

This can go on until Putin dies.

[1] https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russia-mobilization-reserve-...

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by philistine on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @04:38PM (#32931209)
To call what is happening now the classic Russian style of warfare is a flanderization of Soviet Second World War tactics. The Soviets were indeed attacking en masse, but they were not voluntarily sending people to a meat grinder with no hope of success. They instead were using their sheer numbers to annihilate the ability of the enemy to mount a defence. The fact that the Soviets are renown for not retreating was also due to their enemy losing the initiative.
Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by credit_guy on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:40AM (#32935140)
> Russia does not have enough power to conquer Ukraine, and Ukraine does not have enough power to conquer Russia

Ukraine is not trying to conquer Russia. It’s only trying to free its occupied territories. And it has the power to do so. HIMARS and stuf …

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by detaro on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:58AM (#32935212)
The poster you respond to isn't claiming that Ukraine is trying to do so, the rest of line the you quote from is important.
Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by credit_guy on Thursday September 22, 2022 @07:19AM (#32937360)
> the rest of line the you quote from is important.

I understand their argument, but I dispute it. The way things are going, the war is not going to last for years. Russia's military is collapsing. They have low morale, little training, bad leadership, little to no will to fight, deprecated weapons, no strategy, no allies. Ukraine's military has great motivation and morale, phenomenal public image, good training (and getting better every day), good troop rotation, great intelligence, numerous allies. And now they have the silver bullet too, in the from of HIMARS.

We are not watching a slog. We are watching a lopsided fight.

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by PontifexMinimus on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @06:53PM (#32932672)
If Russia throws badly trained, led, equipped and supplied troops into battle, their losses are likely to be horrendous and their morale rock bottom. They would be far better served by a smaller number of well trained troops; but that would take too much time.
Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by arinlen on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @07:20PM (#32932928)
> If Russia throws badly trained, led, equipped and supplied troops into battle, their losses are likely to be horrendous and their morale rock bottom.

Russia's strategy seems taken straight out of Zapp Brannigan's Art of War, where they are banking on Ukraine's arms supplies to eventually run out after spending them all wiping out wave after wave of Russia's "badly trained, led, equipped and supplied troops" until there's no resistance left.

Starting from day 1, Russia has been sending unwitting and unequiped conscripts through the Ukraine frontlines until they draw contact.

Re:Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russi... by vkou on Thursday September 22, 2022 @02:15PM (#32942624)
Which conscripts has Russia been sending? My understanding is that pretty much everyone besides the local militias are volunteers.