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Re:You can't make this shit up by tsol on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @03:28PM (#32916621)
This probably is the smarter move to be honest. It'd be nice if you could admit your flaws and everyone else would say "it's okay we're flawed too we understand" and we can all move on.

But in reality if you admit you made a mistake, some people would use that as a weapon against you, and everyone else would decide not to get involved in defending your flaws because it's too much trouble.

Or instead you can double down and some people will get annoyed, but you haven't created a vulnerability and you get to keep soldiering on.

I really wish we lived in the first scenario, but honestly most people aren't actually willing to behave in that way. So by default we end up with the second scenario.

Re:You can't make this shit up by pxmpxm on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:19PM (#32917238)
And the more bad decisions they make, the less wealthy they become and vice versa.

It's almost as if this self-correcting dynamic had something to do with efficient resource allocation and general prosperity; but what do I know, I'm but a simple backyard furnace operator.

Re:You can't make this shit up by trasz on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @05:25PM (#32918014)
Except they don't became any less wealthy because of this. Their products might become crappier, but again, in most cases this doesn't matter because the people making decisions about buying products are not the people using them. That's why most enterprise software is so terrible, btw.
Re:You can't make this shit up by kleer001 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @12:58PM (#32914580)
Blaming human nature on capitalism?

Is this something that magically doesn't happen in top down managed economies?

Care to point us to an non-capitalistic economy where this type of irrational behaviour doesn't happen?

Re:You can't make this shit up by db48x on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:53PM (#32915324)
It is the popular fad to be ignorant of the rampant mismanagement that is always prevalent in Communist countries. People should read the books written by people who defected from the Soviet Union to get an idea of just how bad it can get. “The Liberators: my life in the Soviet Army” by Viktor Suvorov is a good one. And it can be read online: <https://archive.org/details/liberatorsmylife0000suvo>
Re:You can't make this shit up by trasz on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:59PM (#32915452)
>Communist

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

“Not capitalist” does not mean “communist”. There are plenty other systems out there. And even for what many folks call communism you’ll find examples of much better efficiency - China for example has been developing at speed never seen in nominally capitalist countries.

Re:You can't make this shit up by twh270 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:55PM (#32916238)
Much better efficiency - sure, if you don't believe in ghost cities and ignore the real estate hyper-bubble (which is certain to come crashing down).
Re:You can't make this shit up by trasz on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @05:24PM (#32917986)
So objective, easily verifiable gains - like the life expectancy, which is now longer than in USA - don't matter because of ghost towns? :-D
Re:You can't make this shit up by tsol on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @03:31PM (#32916654)
What are the other systems that are actually being used?
Re:You can't make this shit up by kleer001 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @12:53PM (#32941527)
barter at the very small scale

some top down goes on it troubled countries

but by far and away the advantages of capitalism are more than its deficits

it responds to and is driven by human natures, not the other way around

Re:You can't make this shit up by ps901 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:38PM (#32916026)
China is in fact a capitalist country, despite the "Communist" in it's party's name.
Re:You can't make this shit up by db48x on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @03:41PM (#32916777)
Partly. Most of the Chinese people have no private property rights.
Re:You can't make this shit up by kurisufag on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:55PM (#32915343)
The wealth would be a runoff effect of the higher corporate position, no?

your issue should be with corporate hiring practices, not the economic system they exist in.

Re:You can't make this shit up by n4r9 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:39PM (#32916041)
Aha, but the issue is that the wealthy people are choosing who to hire/promote.