Chess is just poker now

Re:Chess is just poker now by joe-collins on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:34PM (#32904343)

This idea of playing less than "perfect", so as to steer your opponent into plays that give you greater advantage than is available in the perfect mirror-match, is a well-worn familiar concept to game designers, and yes, poker players. If that's something new that bothers chess aficionados, I don't feel like it reflects particularly well on that game's culture.

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Re:Chess is just poker now by davisoneee on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:32PM (#32915939)

I think it's perfectly fine for different games to have different cultures...for people of game A to want more calculation, and game B more towards psychology. Suggesting it doesn't reflect well on chess' culture suggests that wanting psychology is _more_ right. It's not. It's just _different_.

Now whether chess really IS more about calculation these days is a difficult question to answer. It might just be that it values a different kind of calculation or skill than the past. Given the deep preparation necessary for someone to be a chess professional, I'm biased towards (micro-edit: believing that...) more calculation _is_ necessary for high level performance, and psychology is more gimmicky.

The difference is that poker isn't a game of complete information, chess is. This means that, technically, there is a _right_ answer in chess. With the ambiguity of poker, and other games, that leaves room for psychology to be more natural.

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