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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by cwkoss on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:11PM (#32904022)
I'm a US citizen and am more concerned about the US government than the CCP, particularly because of the amount of power each entity can hold over me.
Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by seandoe on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:51PM (#32904554)
This type of comment is popping up everywhere. I think it's a bit naive and simple. I would add selfish, but it might be more than that. If the CCP uses the data against your government and its people in order to pursue its interests, isn't it possible that your well-being could suffer? Even if that is not the direct intention? Further, isn't it possible that, while your government indeed has more power over you, a side effect of your government successfully satisfying their interests could be an improvement in your well being? How can you be so sure the biggest threat is your government? I'm not so sure one way or the other, I'm just curious how you are. There is evidence of foreign governments meddling with US civilian affairs. It seems like this is exactly the attitude they would try to cultivate.
Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by lmm on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:28PM (#32905561)
> If the CCP uses the data against your government and its people in order to pursue its interests, isn't it possible that your well-being could suffer? Even if that is not the direct intention? Further, isn't it possible that, while your government indeed has more power over you, a side effect of your government successfully satisfying their interests could be an improvement in your well being? How can you be so sure the biggest threat is your government? I'm not so sure one way or the other, I'm just curious how you are.

The same way we figure out anything else - learning and experience. Ultimately, there have been a bunch of cases of people like us having their lives ruined by the USG, and not so many cases of the CCP doing the same (and none for people who didn't go to China or have family ties there, AFAIK).

> There is evidence of foreign governments meddling with US civilian affairs. It seems like this is exactly the attitude they would try to cultivate.

There is also evidence of the US government meddling with US civilian affairs, and I suspect they deploy a lot more and a lot more effective propaganda to cultivate the attitudes that they want to see.

Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by cwkoss on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:04PM (#32904736)
I think US hegemony is the biggest threat to global stability, but this is starting to veer off topic.
Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by jahewson on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:19PM (#32904889)
False dichotomy. You can be concerned about both.
Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by cwkoss on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:44PM (#32905179)
To be more specific, I am concerned about addressing surveillance-ware on a nationalist basis because it strengthens the political power of domestic surveillance-ware.

If the data is dangerous, no one should be allowed to collect, store and sell it. It shouldn't be allowed for only those in the favor of the US federal govt.

Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by anon291 on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:00PM (#32904690)
I'm sorry this is ridiculous. While I am very concerned about things such as learning the Biden administration colludes with fact checkers at facebook and dictates which accounts to ban at youtube and such... comparing that with the overarching censorship of the CCP is a false equivocation.