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Re:Proposed Free Expression Statement for MIT by woodruffw on Monday September 19, 2022 @09:58AM (#32898370)
You can read the Apology yourself (in the original Greek, even), and see that is has nothing to do with “bad faith” in the way we understand contemporarily: “corrupting the youth of Athens” refers specifically to encouraging their atheism and lack of deference.

To his eternal credit, Socrates does not argue very well in his defense. But this does not amount to bad faith on his part.

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Re:Proposed Free Expression Statement for MIT by PubliusMI on Monday September 19, 2022 @02:16PM (#32901879)
You tell us right now what it means to "participate in bad faith" or you quit talking about censoring "bad faith" speakers.
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Re:Proposed Free Expression Statement for MIT by woodruffw on Monday September 19, 2022 @02:27PM (#32902008)
Bad faith is characterized by inauthenticity, meaning: acting or arguing in discordance with one's true beliefs or intentions.

Edit: bad faith is additionally characterized by its intentional stance, meaning that it shouldn't be confused with a state of ego dystonicity (wherein the actor acts compulsively against their self-perceived "true" nature).

To the best of my knowledge, there is no serious interpretation of Socrates in which his recorded expressions are considered to be in bad faith. The absolute closest stretch would be arguing that the Socratic method is in some sense "faithless," which is distinct from the negative nature of bad faith.

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