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Re:Show HN: A virtual Yubikey device for 2FA/WebAuthN by bb88 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @07:21PM (#32882619)
Passwords are an antipattern. Password managers are just a crutch to make it less painful.

Password recovery is often done through the phone via SMS (health care/banking) when a 2FA hardware key would be safer. And since you're implementing 2FA, just remove the password, and ask the user to use the 2FA key.

Re:Show HN: A virtual Yubikey device for 2FA/WebAuthN by smeej on Saturday September 17, 2022 @07:39PM (#32882753)
I think my favorite example of using SMS in the least sane way possible is PayPal.

I have a hardware key AND an authenticator app active for the account, but they STILL won't let me send transactions without entering a code sent to my phone number. And actually, not even then, because even though I receive the code fine, they say they can't authenticate me and don't give me a chance to enter it. Yes, it's a VOIP number, but it's been the same VOIP number for the 10 years I've had the account. It's not like it's new.

Re:Show HN: A virtual Yubikey device for 2FA/WebAuthN by bb88 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @08:03PM (#32882927)
I needed to recover my user account / password through Voya recently for a corporate 401k.

They needed to send me 3(!) SMS messages in the process. One to get the username (with a valid email address). One more to request to change the password. And one more to actually change the password.