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Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by fzeroracer on Saturday September 17, 2022 @03:59PM (#32880990)
This is simply not true. You're trying to do a 'both sides are bad it's only your perception coloring your things' deal, but I live in a red state where Republicans encouraged bounty hunters to go after and harass women while also trying to control them if they leave to other states.

The only 'generalized view' is the one being created by Republicans, which I see pushed by Republicans and supported by Republicans. You don't have to look far to see some of the dreadful things they're pushing, and trying to pretend both sides are equally bad is not only intellectually dishonest but it's also argumentally lazy.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by trimethylpurine on Saturday September 17, 2022 @06:37PM (#32882281)
You've given me anecdotes and then proceeded to generalize. And called me lazy, which taken together is hilarious. Let's investigate that philosophy, shall we?

Generalizing by nature requires the ignorance of certain truths or anecdotes, in favor of others in order to simplify and conceptualize complex ideas about the world around us.

Read that again. Generalizing requires ignorance.

When you generalize, which you just did, you are, if only by definition, wrong. You must be, logically. If you need help gaining some understanding of logic systems, I'm happy to oblige, because I'm not "argumentally" lazy. (That's not a real word by the way.)

Not all Democrats make up words. Not all Republicans hire bounty hunters.

In summary, when you generalize people as a group to be of a particular belief or characteristic, you must by definition ignore the vast majority of ideas that are intrinsic to the humanity and individuality within the group. That is dehumanizing; it's factually wrong, and it's frankly immoral.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by fzeroracer on Saturday September 17, 2022 @07:27PM (#32882666)
The whole bounty hunter thing is something that was championed by the Republican party. Both locally here in Texas as well as by the party as a whole. I'm not sure how you can call that generalizing when the party directly supports that position. If someone calls themselves a Republican and votes for them knowing that this is their position, then they tacitly support it.

You're effectively taking the stance that you cannot ever criticize a political party for its actions because some small portion of its constituents may disagree which is like I mentioned before, the easy way out. It's avoiding arguing against the actual critique in favor of moving the argument somewhere entirely different.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by trimethylpurine on Saturday September 17, 2022 @10:23PM (#32883789)
That's not what I'm saying. But suit yourself. Let's run with your line of thinking and see how that plays out for you. Let's generalize the other way for the sake of debate.

Let's assume you voted Democrat sometime before 2018.

SC Justice Kennedy, a Republican made it illegal to prosecute gays for sodomy.

Kennedy was on the bench so if you voted Democrat, I guess you're anti-gay, you sick bastard! (Me too apparently! Since I did.)

Sure, Democrats are fighting for civil liberties, right? Unless you want to talk about how they are actually anti-gay, and opposed Trump's rules that federally prevent discriminating cross dressers at work. Didn't hear about that one? Well, that might be because you're busy listening to Democrat politicians YELLING SO LOUD about how they are pro gay rights. Pro civil rights. While they go sit in Congress and vote, just like everyone else, for the corporation who gave them the biggest campaign contribution. Check for yourself at Congress.gov what your Democrat politicians are voting for. Should we brand you with all of those horrible things they voted for like Intuit's grip on the complexities of the tax system? It's your fault taxes are hard to file, I guess! Surely that's a Democratic ideal! I blame you! I should, right? Isn't that what you're saying? That we blame you for your politicians?

And if anything I just said about you isn't true, well, it's just a generalization, isn't it? So by your philosophy, I'm right. Whether you're anti gay or not, you aren't an individual so you don't actually have any opinion except what the Democratic party says your opinion is when they vote in Congress. You are anti-gay now and I don't care how much you want to defend yourself you can't because you voted Democrat. You're a gay hater bro. That's that. That's just who you are.

At least by your philosophy.

Which I very clearly disagree with.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by mindslight on Sunday September 18, 2022 @11:49AM (#32888537)
> SC Justice Kennedy, a Republican made it illegal to prosecute gays for sodomy ... Kennedy was on the bench so if you voted Democrat, I guess you're anti-gay

Politics is so full of contradictions, that you can't simply take an inversion and use it to argue much of anything. I'm sure you could come up with a good example to illustrate the individual-vs-collective distinction, but this isn't it.

Also at a certain point the policies of the collective do matter, especially when people choose to label themselves as being members of a specific party/movement/etc, rather than merely voting for a politician carrying those labels as a least worst option.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by trimethylpurine on Monday September 19, 2022 @03:31AM (#32895387)
Exactly my point.