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Re:The absurdity of Europe burning wood for energy by whatshisface on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:38AM (#32878374)
That calculation works just as well for solar panels and wind farms in an oil-based global economy, but it's just as fallacious. When there's only one solar panel in the world, each solar farm requires X barrels of oil / CFT of gas, but as you get more and more renewable energy in the mix that number goes down to zero.

(Unless, of course, the pellets take more energy to produce than they produce themselves after burning and conversion... but that just makes them inefficient under any energy market mix, not CO2-producing under any mix.)

Re:The absurdity of Europe burning wood for energy by dfee on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:47AM (#32878440)
Sorry, this didn’t make any sense to me.

The reasoning about non-neutrality is that a tree has captured some carbon (its growth), then we burn it and release that carbon back into the atmosphere (1:1 equality).

However, anything on top of that (production of pellets, transportation, retailing) takes significant carbon, too.

Solar panels don’t take carbon from the air, and we don’t burn solar panels. We do manufacture, transport and retail them, though. So yeah, solar capture is non-neutral.

The merits of one are independent of the other. Neither of which are carbon neutral. Last point, some might argue that solar panels reduce the carbon needed to combust; it’s hard to see that as carbon neutrality, that’s a broken argument. But, I’m not sure who’s making that point.

Re:The absurdity of Europe burning wood for energy by bobthepanda on Saturday September 17, 2022 @12:58PM (#32879039)
The difference is that solar panels are only moved and retailed at the point of sale, but after installation there isn’t anything because it’s where it’s supposed to be and it only gets installed once.

Wood is the fuel, so to power a wood stove you need to constantly be moving it to its ultimate destination.

Re:The absurdity of Europe burning wood for energy by cinntaile on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:40AM (#32878391)
That's how you do LCAs, nothing fallacious about it. Solar or wind isn't CO2 neutral either.