Man-Computer Symbiosis (1960)

Re:Man-Computer Symbiosis (1960) by nathias on Saturday September 17, 2022 @09:52AM (#32877552)

> In the anticipated symbiotic partnership, men will set the goals, formulate the hypotheses, determine the criteria, and perform the evaluations. Computing machines will do the routinizable work that must be done to prepare the way for insights and decisions in technical and scientific thinking.

This is how people that knew what are doing were using them, but the generalization of computing didn't include generalization of this knowledge so the side effects have been the opposite of this kind of symbiosis. We are condemned to do the drudgery to fulfill goals set by algorithms.

The author posits a time window for this symbiosis, maybe the time is up.

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Re:Man-Computer Symbiosis (1960) by daniel-cussen on Saturday September 17, 2022 @10:08AM (#32877636)

None of those goals are set by algorithms. They're all in heuristics. All machine learning is heuristic. You never know for sure. If the goal were set by an algorithm that would therefore mean it was airtight. That would be like religion or torture, or both. Walking in the footsteps of Jesus.

Despite not actually being algorithms, but heuristics, the demand for those heuristics is insatiable. And it's verifiable, if you eg send two factor matrices here for me to create the product and send it back, you can check a statistically overwhelming amount of them with a laptop in a second.

http://fgemm.com, coming soon.

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Re:Man-Computer Symbiosis (1960) by tempie_deleteme on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:43AM (#32878417)

that's 'symbiosis' like using a hammer to put a nail in is symbiosis.

I guess that's fine if all your life is work.

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