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Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by echelon on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:24AM (#32867356)
Startups will offer stock and win.

If tech workers were united in fleeing giants to found or work at nimble upstarts, we would reap nearly all of the rewards.

Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by neon_electro on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:41AM (#32867638)
Not when the best the nimble upstarts are offering in positions where equity is on the table are options, not shares.

I’m all for more employee ownership and engagement from being a shareholder in addition to an employee, but I’d love to see startups equally interested in that.

Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by lr4444lr on Friday September 16, 2022 @01:07PM (#32869047)
I don't think you want this. Even in a firm that is under 10 mil., if you are granted hard equity, you're going to be liable for taxes on those shares, which will be extremely illiquid. Options or RSUs let you have your cake and eat it too, at a small price.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by neon_electro on Friday September 16, 2022 @10:07PM (#32874149)
You're right - I don't want to touch equity any more. I know how to buy stocks and bonds for mid-to-long term investments, I hope and expect my next employer to prioritize cash/salary-based compensation.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by LudwigNagasena on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:29AM (#32867433)
The choice depends on your risk tolerance/aversion.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by JAlexoid on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:42AM (#32867657)
With larger companies stock grants are of little value to gain.

I joined GrubHub 3 months before the stock tanked. I haven't even vested the first tranche, before my RSUs tanked over 2x.

Thank god I learned enough in my life, to demand cash sign on bonus... that ended up being larger than the RSU grant.

Remember the golden rule - $1k today, is better than possible $10k in 4 years. (feel free to scale it up as you wish)