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Re:The Ethereum merge is done by ajross on Thursday September 15, 2022 @12:58PM (#32854988)
I don't understand your point. If you want to speculate on crypto you can hand a credit card to Coinbase at near-zero cost, you don't need to buy mining hardware to do it. If miners are buying electricity to speculate, they're making stupendously bad decisions. They should sell that hardware and buy crypto; their leverage will be much higher and their costs will be vastly lower.

No, mining is economic activity, not investment. You pay stuff to get stuff. Whether you then invest your profits in crypto has nothing to do with where you got them.

Re:The Ethereum merge is done by teawrecks on Thursday September 15, 2022 @04:05PM (#32857764)
True, and yet nearly every original bitcoin millionaire became one specifically because they decided to mine something that was worthless at the time. Sometimes you don't have money, but you have a GPU and someone else is paying for your electricity. I understand that doesn't describe most mining these days, but the point still stands: people will speculate at a loss.
Re:The Ethereum merge is done by ajross on Thursday September 15, 2022 @05:33PM (#32858750)
Again, you're confusing "mining" (economic activity that produces new coins and fees that happen to be measured in BTC) with "investment" (acquiring BTC via any means with the intent to hold).

They are not the same concept, in fact they're completely orthogonal. You don't mine to get coins for investment, because you can get coins much (MUCH!) more cheaply via other means. You mine to get income in the present.

Re:The Ethereum merge is done by teawrecks on Thursday September 15, 2022 @07:55PM (#32860114)
And yet, people did and do.

Overpaying for an investment doesn't make it NOT an investment. You're just saying that arbitrarily.