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Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by jeffbee on Thursday September 15, 2022 @10:37AM (#32852721)
The ability of exurban dwellers to visit a city with their car is of no interest to the people in that city. Why should they care?
Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by ghaff on Thursday September 15, 2022 @10:49AM (#32852873)
Are you sure? A city that’s unwelcome to commuting workers, local visitors coming in for entertainment, shopping, dinners etc. may not be a city that the city dwellers want. Of course they’re welcome to discourage visitors however they want.
Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by ryukafalz on Thursday September 15, 2022 @10:57AM (#32852978)
My city has throngs of people coming in via transit whenever there’s a major sporting event or concert. I know, I’ve shared trains with them many times. You don’t have to get there by car.
Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by ghaff on Thursday September 15, 2022 @11:09AM (#32853190)
In my experience most are coming from nearby suburbs, not exurbs. While I might take the commuter rail in for a major sporting event or concert even if it might mean waiting around—or park at an outlying transit lot—It’s pretty impractical for most evening events and this is a major city with pretty good transportation options generally.

City residents can do whatever they want but I for one will simply not come in in general if it’s too big a hassle. And that’s fine. I have plenty of other things to do.

Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by ryukafalz on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:26AM (#32867385)
> City residents can do whatever they want but I for one will simply not come in in general if it’s too big a hassle. And that’s fine. I have plenty of other things to do.

Agreed, it is fine. As a city resident I would rather have fewer people coming in and a more walkable environment than more people coming in and streets clogged with cars. We should make sure the transit is excellent, but if some people don’t want to come in because they want to drive and it’s difficult, that’s fine! Too many people driving in makes the city an unpleasant place to be in.

Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by jeffbee on Thursday September 15, 2022 @11:05AM (#32853124)
Virtually every city in America destroyed itself in the pursuit of what you suggest: everyone will live out in Whiteville and they'll just drive downtown for culture, commerce, and employment. It didn't work. The freeways and parking lots cost too much, and the commuters don't pay enough taxes to balance it out.
Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by ghaff on Thursday September 15, 2022 @04:05PM (#32857767)
And many don't mostly need to come downtown for commerce or employment any longer. And culture can be a handful of times a year. That's my situation. I rarely come into the nearest major city any longer. It's not that I don't come in but I'm very selective.
Re:Should traffic lights be abolished? (2021) by jeffbee on Thursday September 15, 2022 @04:45PM (#32858200)
Well it sounds like we agree then. There's no reason for a city to hollow out its neighborhoods to make space for the cars of people who drive into town once a year.