Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers
by Closi on Thursday September 15, 2022 @07:46AM
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How often do you have to do it though? It's only for high-value transactions (>£45) and the rest is contactless.
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Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers
by ghaff on Thursday September 15, 2022 @08:08AM
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In Ireland I’ve had to enter a PIN for as little as 15 Euros. It’s very variable. Never run into this in Europe before and it’s been something of a pain because I don’t have a PIN on any of my personal cards. Fortunately I found I do have one on my corporate card.
Re:Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers
by neilalexander on Thursday September 15, 2022 @08:27AM
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The threshold varies between banks but there is often a limit as to how much you can spend or many times you can use "unverified" contactless payments (i.e. not Apple Pay which forces biometric verification) in a row before it will stop and demand a Chip+PIN transaction instead, to prevent someone who finds/steals a card from spending large amounts without ever needing to know the PIN.
For example, if the contactless limit is £100 and it only allows four contactless transactions in a row, the worst damage that can be done is £400, so banks and card issuers only need to manage the liability for fraudulent contactless transactions up to that amount (Visa and Mastercard call it "Zero Liability" protection).